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Photos of Action Scene From "Terminator: Genesis" Set

Posted: June 2nd, 2014 by WorstPreviews.com Staff
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We recently showed you the first photos from the New Orleans set of the upcoming "Terminator" reboot, giving us a look at Arnold Schwarzenegger, Emilia Clarke (Sarah Connor), Jai Courtney (Kyle Reece) and Jason Clarke (John Connor).

Today we have two new photos from an action scene, showing Sarah Connor and Kyle Reece shooting at a police car from the back of an armored truck. Since moving vehicles are involved, the two characters are being played by stunt performers. Check out the photos below.

"Terminator" is directed by Alan Taylor (Thor: The Dark World) and will focus on a younger version of Schwarzenegger's character getting reprogrammed and becoming the main villain of the film. It's set to hit theaters on July 1st, 2015.

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cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:27:36 AM

2 photos on-set photos from the new Terminator. Amazing

TMZ has 45 photos from the set of Star Wars, yet you ran with this. Amazing.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:28:47 AM

^^too many "photos" in that 1st sentence. Oops



P.S. photos
Papillon writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:29:10 AM

If I'm not mistaken, that police car is from the 80's, presumably the same one used in 1984. So, they start from where it ended in the 1st Terminator.

Interesting.
bandolero999 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:35:16 AM

Poop in the making
Attos writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:37:02 AM

Why does her face look so incredibly fat?
BadChadB33 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:37:16 AM

So epic!!
boogiel writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:45:16 AM

Unless my eyes deceive me, that's not Melinda Clarke. That or she miraculously gain a lot of weight in a very short amount of time.
PORN-FLY writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:10:52 AM

No Joker casting news?
Cannon writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:48:11 AM


Cue digital face swaps.

Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 12:00:39 PM

Cress has a point...
Jah Edgar Hoover writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 12:26:40 PM

"You idiots! These are not them! You've captured their stunt doubles!"
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 12:27:24 PM

STAR WARS adds Lupita N'yongo and "Damn, Thst's A Huge Bitch" to Episode 7 cast:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/06/02/star-wars-
episode-vii-casts-lupita-nyongo-and-gwendoline-christie/
PORN-FLY writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 1:08:14 PM

HOOVER^^
lol
BlackDynamite writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 1:46:23 PM

"If I'm not mistaken, that police car is from the 80's, presumably the same one used in 1984. So, they start from where it ended in the 1st Terminator.

Interesting."

Congratulations, you've deduced what they've said the plot was from the start.
Papillon writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 1:53:05 PM

^ ^ Thank you but the article doesn't mention the plot and neither did I know about the plot.
Papillon writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 3:13:12 PM

Did anyone see Penny Dreadful last night?

Josh Hartnett going for Dorian Gray instead of Eva Green!?

Holy Moly!
Sleuth1989 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 3:28:31 PM

So saw "Godzilla" last night. Loved it. Easily an 8/10. The pacing was good, effects were good, and everyone had a motivation that felt real. Big shout out to Elizabeth Olsen and Cranston who gave great performances given thei limited screen time. Johnson was okay but somewhat empty at some points. That was where it got a little slow but the set pieces were great and Godzilla was handled wrll. Instead of just of action they wrapped it around a story. I enjoyed it and one of the better atmospheric films I've seen in awhile with a good build-up. Well done Gareth Edwards.
Big Daddy Cool writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 5:19:20 PM

see you later, terminator

after while, private kyle (reese)
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 5:26:25 PM

Mink.

back to the 90s thrillers. You mentioned True Crime. Wonderful film. Reminds me of how big of a let down Alex Cross was for me.

I know that we're not talking Schindlers List here, but these types of films are amongst my personal favorites. Kiss the Girls and Along Came a Spider are huge guilty pleasures of mine.

So imagine the horror when I watched Alex Cross.

Have you seen this yet? Its worth it, to see exactly what not to do with an action thriller. Pure pathetic drivel.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 5:39:40 PM

@Sleuth. I agree that Edwards did a great job, but that story was too "start/stop" for me. I know they minimalized the earlier skirmishes in the film so as to amp up anticipation for the big throwdown at the end, but I don't think it worked to the film's benefit. Yes, a film like JAWS did that perfectly, but with GODZILLA all the cutaways from the action became annoying. I wanted to f*cking SEE IT, not hear about it after the fact. Aaron Taylor-Johnson was a low point in the film. Very disappointed with his performance. I enjoyed the film, but felt it underacheived, imo. I think Edwards is great, though, and can't wait for his Boba Fett movie (seriously, we all know it's going to be Boba Fett, right?)
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 5:43:06 PM

I'll reserve judgement still I see a trailer, because what's being shown so far isn't exactly shooting electricity up my balls.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 5:52:24 PM

Triggax,

Thanks for the thoughtful, intelligent reply as usual.

No, I haven't seen Alex Cross, but now that you mention it, I'll put it on my queue as well.

I have seen Kiss the Girls and Along Comes a Spider, and I have to admit that I too enjoyed them, though, the former is more enjoyable. Admittedly, neither are exactly high film-making, and one wonders how they can make arguably superior films out of Dean Koontz material (Phantasms) but not superior films out of superior authors such as Patterson.

And you just know they can Freeman in the role of Cross because of his hard-boiled noir Seven role, which is to say compared to that film, Morgan does seem more wasted as Cross.

I'd have much more to say if I had seen the films more recently.

But back to Eastwood for a minute: how do you feel about his latter-year movies like Million Dollar Baby and Flags of Our Fathers? How would you compare him to latter-day Spielberg? DO you see their work as comparable in that both are the product of older, more reserved men? Or do you think they're just reflecting on their lives through their films instead of exploring the joy of being young, as Steven did with Close Encounters and ET?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 5:52:37 PM

*till.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:01:12 PM

I think MILLION DOLLAR BABY is brilliant, but I've never seen FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS. How is it, Mink?

My thoughts, and I know you didn't ask, is that all filmmakers change as they get older. They get married, have kids; their perceptions change. Technically, Spielberg is just as proficient as ever, but his choices of film material has changed. He's stated that he can direct an action film in his sleep, but those projects don't interest him as much anymore.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:05:56 PM

Also, one of many reasons I enjoyed THE WOLF OF WALL STREET so much is that it felt like a genuine Scorsese film, something akin to GOODFELLAS. He's really gotten away from his signature style the last decade or more with his film choices, and while I've liked most of them, seeing WOLF was a lot of fun for me
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:07:13 PM

Mink & Trigg-

I've seen all the Cross movies and I actually liked Alex Cross. I know I'm literally the only person to ever say that sentence, but I think it's better then the harsh words I've heard about it.

Like come on, how can you call that movie sh*t when there exists movies like Scary movie 5, House at the end of the street and all those other sh*tfest spoof films.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:10:32 PM

Personally feel that Eastwood is a far superior director in his older years than Spielberg.

Spielbergs best film that he had full control of, is Close Encounters. He lost his magic once he started producing. IMO he's no better now than Michael Bay. For example every now and again you get near perfect movies like The Rock and Bad Boys 1. In Spielbergs case, Minority Report, Munich.

Buuut there is so much studio filler there that somethings lost on too many films.

which is why I prefer Eastwood. Hes batting over .500 hes more hit than miss. Everything he has directed since probably Unforgiven has had this freight train like certainty to it. Nothing is ever over done or silly. Thats where studios have ruined Spielberg.

I prefer some of Spielbergs movies but I know Eastwood is a more consistent filmmaker that gives less of a sh*t about studio money.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:16:01 PM

@Cress: Flags of our Fathers is a proper cinematic journey for our servicemen and an excellent movie memorial that portrays them in the most flattering and humane light possible, although the material is a little dry even if the direction is superb.

I would suggest it and its bookend companion Letters from Iwo Jima.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:19:53 PM

@Tanman: regardless if you liked Alex Cross, you can't make a proper analysis of a film by comparing it to the worst sh*t imaginable.

In fact, you can't compare it to anything at all. You have to compare it to the standards of film-making. You have to pretend that no other movie exists and then say: does this film have good lighting, costume design, direction, acting, et ecetera. Do the characters work? Is the plot coherent, memorable and engaging? Is the script well-structured. And so on.

I'm not trying to lecture you, but Alex Cross is very nearly universally reviled, and though you're entitled to your own opinion, when you say it's a decent film you should have more to explain your position than "well it's better than Scary Movie 5".
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:21:16 PM

@Trigger, Roy Roger's horse: I thought Gran Torino was "meh". Your thoughts?
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:26:38 PM

@Triage. THE ROCK and BAD BOYS?

I'm going to have to rewatch these films again because I don't remember them as "near perfect" as you.

MINORITY REPORT is probably the purest Spielber film of the last 20 years. It was damn perfect.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:29:29 PM

Flags of our Fathers was an excellent lesson in how to film a movie, not write it.

The film itself and its character interaction plays out a lot like a telegraph written in that same era.

Still, a f*cking excellent film.

Comparing it to Saving Private Ryan, you can see how Spielberg blows his films so far out of proportion, stresses his cast and crew it seems for little reason, the end result is usually fantastic but it comes through the screen and is unnecessary.

I have nothing really bad to say about either director.

Heartbreak Ridge was awesome!

The Rookie was awesome!

Million Dollar Baby decent!

Empire of the Sun was awesome!

Minority Report was awesome!

Lincoln was... decent!

So it really depends, they've both made some of my favorite movies I've ever watched, and I am sure I am not alone on that, I personally feel that Spielberg has made worse sh*t, because when you shoot for the stars and fail, (war of the worlds) VS. shooting for just over your house and failing (blood work) it has way more impact on your career.

I lost sense of what I was even saying.

Close Encounters Sits in my top 10, Unforgiven sits in my top 5.

So. there's that.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:34:58 PM

Triggax,

Ah, I see. Very true. And my thoughts on all that aren't very clear at the moment. You certainly raise some good points, such as when you say that Spielberg essentially sold out pretty early for money whereas Eastwood has used his last decades of life to produce thoughtful, engaging and moving personal films, the stories he wishes to tell before he dies, whereas Spielberg seems more interested in merely making money via producing.

What do you think of such projects like War Horse, Tin Tin and Lincoln? Would you characterize the first two as more personal projects, even vanity filler, whereas Lincoln can be seen as a more cynical ploy to win awards in the year of Obama's reelection?

Mind you, I'm not trying to get political, but many people more knowledgeable of films than I have claimed that Lincoln seemed specifically engineered to win Oscars, juxtaposed with what many in Hollywood see as a pivotal, progressive age in American politics, and Steven is a huge Obama supporter.

For me, Eastwood seems like a thoughtful, balanced and considerate director, one who has devoted all his energy towards using his last years to create films that speak to the audience through his own beliefs, hopes and memories of life and times past, and he doesn't seem much to dwell on whether or not anyone recognizes his work on Award night.

Regardless, I've always loved Eastwood, not because he's a celebrity or famous or wealthy, but because he's so damned human, so damned decent and honest, so unlike so many of his contemporaries, and he seems like a man out of time, as do many of his films.

It will be a truly tragic loss that a man such as him, one that could so easily repudiate the adage that a man loses quality of work as he ages, will have to pass on beyond the great veil of death while we the living are left with the likes of much younger directors who not only seem to have no soul but no innate humanity.



Oh, and you're right about Michael Bay: as much as I and many others love to bash his repetitive cinematography and gratuitous pyrotechnics, the f*cker can film action like no other man, not even Cameron, and though Bay catches a lot of flack, his films are not only often extremely entertaining and well-directed, they would be considered works of miraculous magic in any earlier age.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:36:17 PM

"@Triage. THE ROCK and BAD BOYS?

I'm going to have to rewatch these films again because I don't remember them as "near perfect" as you.

MINORITY REPORT is probably the purest Spielber film of the last 20 years. It was damn perfect."

Pfft, in their genre,

I would put up a pretty good argument against the fact that The Rock was easily one of the greatest straight up action films ever made. Bad Boys, again, if you take these things for what they are, was a f*cking excellent film, it's like Point Break, Point Break is one of the greatest movies ever made, why? Because the name Johnny Utah is so f*cking awesome, because Gary Busey kicks serious ass and beach parties firing guns, jumping out of airplanes and robbing banks with Patrick Swayze wearing a Richard Nixon mask are all the coolest things on earth ever.

There are reasons why movies affect us the way they do, if you're not a retard you can usually cut through the bullsh*t and get to the point of a film, most people let their emotions tell them a movies worth.

I'm looking at you Rambo.

Tanman, Alex Cross was the most major disappointment of the last decade for me. What a stinking pile of dog sh*t that was, I know you're young, I want you to go back in about 5 to 10 years, rewatch the two former films, enjoy them for what they are, let them take you in and then maybe a week later, when you're done feeling good about watching a good solid movie, watch Alex Cross and tell me you didnt do a WTF after the first 20 minutes.

Anything can be good if it's done properly.

Alex Cross was mishandled by c*ck sucking *ssholes looking for a couple of quick dollars.
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:37:13 PM

Mink-

Yeah, I guess you're right. Probably should have thought that through before I hit enter. Any good movies lately? I'm heading out to see that Million ways to die in the west one. Could be good for a laugh or two.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:37:34 PM

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS is in my top ten.

JAWS is my 2nd favorite film ever, behind 2001 (I know I'm going to hear it from Mink about 2001 being sh*te, but oh well)

UNFORGIVEN is brilliant, with one of the best scenes ever:

http://youtu.be/8wGiJcq95Ug





minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:37:59 PM

Bad Boys and The Rock aren't perhaps "nearly perfect", but they are damned well-constructed, especially Bad Boys with its excellent intersection of film, tight camera angles and fluid action. That's just a skill most directors can and could never accomplish much less master, and for Bay it all comes naturally and effortlessly.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:40:20 PM

@Cress: 2001 isn't sh*t. It's an excellent, brilliant movie, although a bit long in the tooth and perhaps a bit too much of Kubrick's enormous ego and vanity. Certainly not a sh*t film. Although it's still very dry and often boring and makes Star Trek The Motion Picture look like Die Hard by comparison.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:44:00 PM

@Tanman: no worries.

When you go see A Million Ways to Die in the West, I want you to judge the film not on the merits of whether or not it's better than some godawful heap of sh*t, but on the merits of film-making.

Are the jokes clever, properly timed, and witty? Is the acting, especially Seth's, properly performed and believable? Does the story work? Is it just another live-action Family Guy gag reel? Or another vanity project like McFarlane's Jazz album? And so on.

Give us a review when you return, and know that if you loved it, I'm not going to bash you viciously.

Much.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:44:12 PM

@Mink. You have railed on 2001 in the past, that's why I said that about you in my above post.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:44:41 PM

"with its excellent intersection of film, tight camera angles and fluid action."

I meant music. Music, not film.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:48:28 PM

@Cress: 2001 is a very long, hard ugly slog. It's a bore. Kubrick did these really long space shots, which aren't visually interesting, and then, knowing that there's no sound in space, and that the audience doesn't want to sit through long space shots in silence, stuffed them with classical music.

It just seems contrived and unnecessary and not really relevant to the film's plot. He should have cut that sh*t down and He could've reduced the film's run-time, snapped up the pace, picked up the action, and had a very serviceable science fiction film.

Instead he went all verbose New Age on us and people then didn't much care for it. I don't much care for it now, not the way he did, although I greatly appreciate the talent and skill on display in the film.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:48:30 PM

I find it hard to do a Top Ten list when it comes to movies, yet HANDS DOWN, my Top Two favorite films are unequivocally 2001 and JAWS. Weird, huh?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:53:28 PM

We all have our favorites, and the reasons why they're up there. Except for me, that is. I just for the life of me cannot name one single favored film that supersedes every other favored film. Just can't.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:56:57 PM

"What do you think of such projects like War Horse, Tin Tin and Lincoln? Would you characterize the first two as more personal projects, even vanity filler, whereas Lincoln can be seen as a more cynical ploy to win awards in the year of Obama's reelection?

Mind you, I'm not trying to get political, but many people more knowledgeable of films than I have claimed that Lincoln seemed specifically engineered to win Oscars, juxtaposed with what many in Hollywood see as a pivotal, progressive age in American politics, and Steven is a huge Obama supporter."

The old joke is that Meryl Streep sucked so much c*ck in hollywood she has the most oscars.

Right.

Oscar bait makes the Oscars unbearable, this last years oscars were excellent as far as winners go, the BIG oscar bait of the year was 12 Years a Slave. Sure it won best picture but was completely shut out by who should have actually won in other categories.

Do I honestly feel that Cauron should have won for Gravity? No, but I don't feel like anyone other than maybe Scorsese outdid him last year anyways.

Cate Blanchette for Blue Jasmine was a happy surprise, because when everyone talks about it constantly when its "baited" it happens, so we all knew Amy Adams was going to win, but she didn't f*cking deserve it and she didnt f*cking win.

DiCaprio, I like the guy, do I feel like he's an actors actor? Of course I do, he's probably the only actor working today, comparable in that sense to Brando, do I feel like he has any method at all? No, he doesn't, this is an argument for the ages, go back and watch some old Brando flicks, specifically On the Waterfront, he just wasn't that great an actor, the f*cking presence was f*cking enormous, but he wasn't that great an actor.

Same goes for DiCaprio. MacCoughney is the better actor, he played a better more complex role and he deserved the f*cking oscar.

So yeah, Lincoln was absolutely oscar bait.

Day Lewis was in it for the Oscar and the Oscar alone, there are other actors that could have nailed a Lincoln impression better than Day Lewis, Benjamin Walker, in a horror film did it almost as good.

The release dates, the in and our of characters for no reason at all, the large focus on dialog from only 1 actor, and the dramatic stress of Sally Field (Half the movie I was thinking I was watching a 1970's liftime movie)She was ridiculous, but that's what gets you an oscar.

Every year there are movies engineered specifically for Oscars, Spielberg had no reason to make the film, no reason at all, he made it for a studio that wanted some Oscars and the revenue generated from the Oscar buzz.

War Horse and Tin Tin.

Well, War Horse, I liked, I thought it was very well made and you could tell it was a movie he wanted to make, compassionate likeable characters, great story, timeless set pieces, you can tell he wanted to make this film, same with Tin Tin, but he let Peter Jackson and Zemeckis in the room too many times while editing, I think it could have been way better.

That is why I don't understand WTF happened with War of the Worlds, this guy is hands down one of the greatest Science Fiction directors of our time, he's proved that over and over, (Except maybe AI, which is a topic all on its own)and War of the Worlds, sucked, just sucked, did I really need to spend THAT much time in Tim Robbins f*cking basement? was that necessary? why did you do that? Why was your wifes neighborhood fine? did they really just destroy the bronx by your house?

It wasn't even plot holes it was just pure stupid f*cking filmmaking, like driving with your eyes closed.

Meh.
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 6:59:22 PM

@mink

Deal.

@Everyone
This may be upsetting to some, but I wouldn't watch 2001 again if you payed me. Which I'll admit is a bit of a douchy thing to say, seeing as how I watched it at about 14 and didn't understand a damn thing, Therfore I'd probably much more enjoy it at the age of 22.

Regardless, I found it to be stunning visually but overall boring, at least from a 14 year olds point of view. Also takin into consideration that I hadn't realized how magnificent the film was FOR ITS TIME.

Now I do, but I still wouldn't be looking forward to seeing it again. that's just me. I've always wanted to see A Clockwork orange. I f*cking loved loved loved Kubricks work on The Shinning, which to This day is one of my all time favorite films.

Jaws was great, the sequels? Not so much lol
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:02:19 PM

Trigg-

I thought Lincoln was brilliantly made. The story telling and acting was great. BUT it was long as hell and very boring. I went into the film expecting that and that's the sole reason why I wasn't very dissapointed
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:04:01 PM

"Pfft, in their genre"

Triggax,

What do you mean by this? Do you mean the genre of science fiction? If so, I don't really consider Minority Report a perfect science fiction film. Yes, it's beautifully shot and put together very well, but it doesn't really exemplify to me that which is "science fiction".

Alien is a perfect science fiction film. Terminator is damned near perfect although the exposition does slow the film down on occasion. The Matrix and Dark City are damned near perfect. Minority Report? Perhaps a nearly perfect Spielberg film, or a nearly perfect action film, but not a perfect science fiction film.

Why do I say this? Because it doesn't seem to have much more than gimmicks going for it in that respect. Hovercars, little robots, holographic screens. Basically standard window dressing. For me Minority report isn't much different than a Mission Impossible film set in the ostensible future, dressed up with the standard tropes of sci-fi. No other bigger ideas are really explored, and though the entire film revolves around precognition, I simply don't feel that that's a science fiction concept.

Yes, d*ck is considered a master of sci-fi, but most of his stories are really psychedelic pharmaceutical mind-f*cks told through the vehicle of "time-travel" and "the future". I don't consider his works pure or true sci-fi, and Minority Report, either the movie or the original literary story, is more an exploration of what would transpire in society if mental fantasy were real.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:07:54 PM

@Tanman. I liked 2001 when I was 8 years old. I remember when I got the novelization of 2010 in 5th grade and being excited, and the elementary school librarian was like, "What the hell is up with this kid?" All my friends thought I was weird because I liked it.

I killed my friends.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:11:09 PM

@Tanman: your thoughts on 2001, either when you were 14 or now, are spot on.

Visually stunning, a crowning technical and artistic achievement for the late 60s, but a very long, very boring, very narcissistic project for Kubrick, who seemed compelled to bloat a very serviceable story to a lengthy run-time in pursuit of stunning cinematography at the expense of plot, which is something we wouldn't tolerate today.



2001 works as a showcase of Kubrick's directorial talent and Trumbull's technical prowess, but fails as a film meant to tell an engaging, entertaining story.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:14:24 PM

"...told through the vehicle of "time-travel" and "the future". I don't consider his works pure or true sci-fi.."

You don't consider "time-travel" and "the future" sci-fi? I just need clarity on that point..

triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:14:25 PM

I think "Near Perfect" is a pretty dubious claim for any Bay film, but at least you know where I was going with that.

The Rock still stands as the best action movie I can think of off the top of my head.

You mentioned Malkovich and his idiotic villain in ConAir, although I completely agree with you, something about ConAir, pulls me in every time, whether it's Cage and his whispy creepy long wig, or the film maker forcing the audience to sympathize with a pedophile (who we were lead to believe ate children?)or Faith Hill and the sappy awesome ending, I don't know, maybe it's Cages dumb f*cking accent, I really enjoyed ConAir.

Ya know, Cage made some good action movies, I dug the remake of Gone in Sixty Seconds as well.

Bad Boys, yah, the music was great, excellent score, Mark Mancina, he was awarded a few times for it IIRC.

Cress, next time you watch 2001, try and re edit the film in your own head and tell me you couldn't have made a more coherent movie? I get it, we all just have to bow down to the greatness that was Kubrick, but please, next time you watch it think about how YOU would make the film.

I think I'm with Mink on that, I don't think it's a bad movie by any stretch but people need to stop telling me how f*cking perfect that movie is when every time I watch it all I can think about is how I could have made such a great movie out of around half of the headache inducing drivel that crazy f*ck put on screen.

Dr. Strangelove on the other hand, is a film I wouldn't change a f*cking thing about.

Kubrick was a great film maker, he needed a better editor and less, "yes" men. Somebody needed to tell him to take a chill pill sometimes.

He lit 90% of barry lyndon with candles, instead of using practical lighting effects that could have saved the studio millions of dollars and his cast and crew from almost going insane. Because he wanted to be "Authentic"? Kind of loses it's meaning when you completely ruin an amazing novel and forever piss the writer off due to your giant ego and selfish attitude towards your work.

Hating 2001, is not possible, understanding that it DID NOT NEED to be what it was is a different statement.

triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:18:23 PM

//"Pfft, in their genre"

Triggax,

What do you mean by this? Do you mean the genre of science fiction? If so, I don't really consider Minority Report a perfect science fiction film. Yes, it's beautifully shot and put together very well, but it doesn't really exemplify to me that which is "science fiction".//

No, not science fiction.

I saw Minority Report as more of a "Set in the Future" crime drama type, there is no real genre for that, loosely touches on some things sci fi... dead pan f*cking action is the genre I was referring to, for the Bay films.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:18:24 PM

Spielberg took a premise that could've been a clusterf*ck of cheesiness and made something masterful. In lesser hands, it would've been a laughable exercise. He excels at that; makes you believe in the unbelievable.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:20:02 PM

Triggax,


I don't follow the Oscars, so I have no comment on any of that. Award season means nothing to me, considering that the Oscars are little more than an obnoxious elitist ceremony of backpatters, high-fivers and self-congratulators as seen through the fawning public's porthole, i.e, our television sets.

Having said that, I feel that War of the Worlds has much to recommend it, from the use of color to the presence of Cruise's everyman to the cinematography, but the story simply doesn't work.

First you had ships located inside the Earth. Okay. Why are they there and how did they get there? Are we ever told? Then they go on a rampage after receiving lightning from space, or something to that effect. Then they begin consuming human flesh and spewing blood. Then, all throughout the plot we see Cruise trying to save his family, including a son who should be dead. Then there's Robbins inside his basement rattling off paranoid nonsense in what looked like an attempt to mock anti-government rhetoric. Why was his character there again?

War of the World's simply had no point, plot or purpose. It simply made no sense, and thus it's not only one of the worst Spielberg films in terms of incoherency, it's one of the worst high-budget top-shelf science fiction projects from the last twenty years.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:22:37 PM

And though it seems I'm contradicting myself, I'm simply saying that War of the World is a contradiction itself, a film with much promise that ultimately fails because it's chockablock full of inanity, much like Prometheus.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:23:10 PM

"Alien is a perfect science fiction film. Terminator is damned near perfect although the exposition does slow the film down on occasion. The Matrix and Dark City are damned near perfect. Minority Report? Perhaps a nearly perfect Spielberg film, or a nearly perfect action film, but not a perfect science fiction film."

Ridley Scott really had a f*cking solid grasp of good Sci Fi, James Cameron as well.

The only real "Perfect" Science Fiction films I can think of, off the top of my head, near perfect is easy, but absolute perfection, personally I think the 1951, The Day the Earth Stood Still, was a perfect Science Fiction film, it delivered everything a sci fi fan would need, it wasn't light on the social commentary either, considering its age.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:26:23 PM

@Trig. Sure, I can see where 2001 could be trimmed/remastered in parts. I've thought of things I would've done differently, or even added, in my version. But I think what Kubrick gave us, whether it's an overly narcissistic testament to one's hubris, is a film that is perfect FOR ME in it's final form.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:26:41 PM

"You don't consider "time-travel" and "the future" sci-fi? I just need clarity on that point.."

Assuming that I agree that time-travel isn't infantilist fantasy or a mere plot contrivance to do what would otherwise be impossible, cinematically, I feel that just because a film features "time-travel" doesn't make it science fiction, because if that's the case, The Lake House is science fiction too.

Same goes for "the future", e.g., a rom-com with maid-bots sat in the near 2050.

To me science fiction has to deal with the intersection of real science and a fictional setting and its plausibly logical implications for society, whether that society is a real one or one created for the film only, i.e., Dark City and The Matrix.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:29:21 PM

I know I'll be chastised for this, I enjoyed Prometheus.

I couldn't f*cking help it, I know you can look passed the fact that it was Scott back to what he does best.

BUT THE SET PIECES!! It took me back to a better time. I felt like I was watching something important.

Am I too stupid to realize that almost every single part of that stupid movie was ridiculously incoherent. Maybe?

Fact is, I know Alien Resurrection did a better job of telling a consistent story. Which has to be embarrassing for Scott, but I just can't help but enjoying the look of the f*cking thing.


Funny you brought up Proyas, we've talked about that in the past, I f*cking love Dark City, but I brought up my i Robot argument about for me it was eye candy and everything doesn't have to be perfectly written.

If it is filmed beautifully and sounds amazing, there are times where I will look passed the sh*tty movie that lies within.

Case in point, just about everything Proyas ever did.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:29:26 PM

"is a film that is perfect FOR ME in it's final form."

And I'm sure it was nearly perfect for Kubrick, but is it nearly perfect compared to the accepted standards of film-making?

Now, I'm sure Bay thinks his Transformers trilogy is a nearly-perfect example of modern action film, but is it? Or is it a nearly perfect example of Michael Bay's inexorable need to blow everything up in slow-motion against a back-drop of a Linkin Park soundtrack?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:31:00 PM

Triggax,

What do you think of The Forbidden Planet, which is not only an influence on Cameron, Scott and other science fiction directors, but often considered one of the best science fiction films ever made?
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:31:31 PM

Yak, my sentence structure is starting to resemble Prometheus. I should stop while I'm ahead.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:33:58 PM

Prometheus. What a waste. I go back and look at the beautiful direction, VFX and cinematography only to then realize I'm watching a movie that makes almost no sense. It's a cinematic crime. All that beauty, promise and talent wasted on a story written by a drunken Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:35:03 PM

"Yak, my sentence structure is starting to resemble Prometheus. I should stop while I'm ahead."

You need to because I cannot f*cking keep up!

No really, my fingers f*cking hurt. lol. And all that ten-finger touch-typing I've tried to learn has f*cked up my game.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:35:47 PM

PROMETHEUS?

What the hell?

And you ask if if I've ever been to prison?
They show this film on Sundays at the prison because even retarded people can understand and enjoy it. :)
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:37:26 PM

OOoOoOooooh. That's a long conversation.

I can say this, I enjoyed it, years ago, the last time I saw it.

It does not hold well as it ages.

It has some relevance to it which is nice to see even now some of it holds up, how we react as human beings to a superior race and how we can use that knowledge to better ourselves our planet etc..

But that's the major theme of the film, very quick witted characters I found which makes them forgettable and a perfect set up for Mystery Science Theater.

Not something I would turn off, but not something I will go out of my way to watch again. It's major themes are just kind of boring.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:39:01 PM

Science fiction failures, imo: The Abyss and The Day the Earth Stood Still remake.

I'm still trying to grasp what Derrick was smoking when he made that abomination, and what Cameron was huffing when he thought anyone would love to see him use underwater aliens to preach to humanity. Even Robert Wise had far more subtlety three decades previous.

Really, for me, The Abyss is one of Cameron's duds, although not nearly as bad as Piranha 2.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:39:32 PM

I personally never understood Camerons love for the film, or Spielberg for that matter.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers was more frightening intense and tightly executed than Forbidden Planet.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:41:33 PM

"Now, I'm sure Bay thinks his Transformers trilogy is a nearly-perfect example of modern action film, but is it? Or is it a nearly perfect example of Michael Bay's inexorable need to blow everything up in slow-motion against a back-drop of a Linkin Park soundtrack?"

Umm..but are fans and critics going to be still talking in 30-40 years about Bay's Transformers films as classic/revolutionary/defining?


PORN-FLY writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:42:44 PM

best exchange of ideas ever↑
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:43:13 PM

Yes, but Invasion works triply as a metaphor for the historical Red Scare, the paranoia of hidden "others", and the fear of the split-mind.

It's a rare cinematic achievement, an intersection of psychological and social fears told through a tale of alien invasion.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:44:21 PM

I watched '78 SNATCHERS about a month ago. Kaufman was genius with that film. Hell, I even thought '94's version was decent, but forgettable.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:44:59 PM

Completely agree.

The Abyss was a failure. I love Bean and Harris, they are always good and The Abyss couldn't do a f*cking thing with them..

It was like jerking off a flaccid c*ck. How I feel about The Abyss.

And to think, with that mans knowledge of under water filming and sub expeditions and he makes that stinker.

He takes his knowledge to Pandora? An oversized bath tub with a lot of green screens.

Great. Dude should redo The Abyss in the Mariana Trench and ground that sh*t in reality, the idea of something 10 miles down in the pacific can be seriously utilized as something very scary.

Why someone watched Alien VS Predator and assumed that Derrickson? SP? COULD POSSIBLY remake one of the greatest sci fi films ever, had to have been high as f*ck.

I am one in a billion people that does not completely hate Keanu Reeves too.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:45:52 PM

"Umm..but are fans and critics going to be still talking in 30-40 years about Bay's Transformers films as classic/revolutionary/defining?"

Cress, I suspect in four or five decades, Bay will be held up as a exemplar of how film used to be, as by that time we'll all be well on our way to the Idiocracy and the young people of that age won't know Kubrick much less understand him.

Now call me cynical, but when I hear people say that such and such horrible film is the greatest cinematic work ever, I lose faith that American society is getting smarter, not dumber.

But perhaps that's just an old, bitter man speaking.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:51:50 PM

That is also how I feel about JJ Abrams.

Super 8 f*cking sucked.

Star Trek... gah, give me a f*cking break, they both sucked.

Lost f*cking blew d*cks, I couldnt sit through a single episode of that pretentious garbage.

"Abrams is like a young Spielberg"

f*ck THAT nonsensical bullsh*t, If I hear that one more time....

Abrams is the ULTIMATE fan boy, with a decent DOP.

If Spielberg had made Super 8, instead of lets say, Close Encounters or ET he wouldn't be where he is now.

So let's celebrate a mans career based solely on the fact that he thinks he is good at ripping off old spielberg because of what? We as a society miss real movies and want that nostalgic feeling back?

If they were to remake Indiana Jones, the first person they would ask to do it is Abrams. Which is such a f*cking joke. There is only one man that can remake those films and that's the man that created those films.

Otherwise you get what you pay for, a sloppy clone. Abrams has no style of his own, he clones films from better men and adds light flares for style. Cool bro.

Sadly I have more faith in Abrams than Lucas..

So I guess we'll see.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:54:32 PM

@Mink. I agree. I sometimes think that, "Well, maybe I just don't understand what kids today find as great in films, but then I realize I'm only 41, and these young whipper-snappers are putting some GODDAMN TURDS on a pedestal."

No offense, Tanman
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:54:42 PM

Triggax,

The Abyss is a wasted opportunity. Cameron could have translated the dark, murky, frightening biogenetic world of Aliens to The Abyss instead of giving us a cast of scene-chewers, a magical nuke and a race of hermit aliens here to teach mankind a good moral lesson via a really mondo wave.

Really, when you think "the abyss", you think paranoia, claustrophobia, isolation and bizarre, alien lifeforms. The Abyss had none of that. And no action. Just a demonstration of the power of reflective polygons, and one wonders if Cameron didn't dream up the Abyss because of his inexplicable, intransigent love of water and visual effects, which would explain why the film peaks pretty much at the moment when the watery d*ck arrives onscreen.

Really, that's the film's pinnacle, imo.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:55:47 PM

@Cress: lol. Tanman is really young. He'll change. He'll mature. One day, when he's eighty, he might even think Rome is a cool place.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 7:56:10 PM

I've self destructed into tangents that aren't even making sense anymore.

I'm watching The Last Boy Scout right now.

What a great f*cking movie.

Just once I would like to see someone replicate THAT style, of 90s Tony Scott, I don't think it's possible unless your entire film crew is chain smoking.

If you all wanna see how to film a movie watch just about anything by Tony Scott from 1987 to 1998.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:02:18 PM

\which would explain why the film peaks pretty much at the moment when the watery d*ck arrives onscreen.//

This pretty much sums it up for me.

Lot's of scene chewing and a completely pointless paranoia between characters almost a completely pointless second act leading up to almost nothing.

When you spend about 100th of that cash and properly express your ideas, you can usually come away with a really good Carpenter flick.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:03:44 PM

@Try ajak. I hated SUPER 8 as well. Abrams was so busy aping Spielberg that he forgot to make his own unique film. Very pissed with that flick.

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS sucked as well, but I blame Orci/Lindelof/Kurtzman for a sh*tty film. Maybe if Abrams had been a true fan of Trek, he would've seen that terrible script a mile away. Oh, I did love his 2009 Trek film, though.

I actually like Abrams a lot. I think he's inventive and exciting behind the camera. I know Cannon, and you, and Mink, (the line goes on and on...) hate him, but I think he's a good director, whose last 2 films have sucked.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:07:00 PM

Triggax,

Oh, I definitely agree with you on Abrams. He has no style, no idiosyncratic approach to the medium and no appreciation for the tapestry of film. To him it's a place to put his shiny toys and then slam them together, without the panache and entertainment value of even Michael Bay. It's all slick surfaces here, lens flare there. There's no appreciation for story, pacing, character or even plot. He runs the camera through the scenes and hurries towards the end the way a kid would play a Super Mario Brothers level while high on rock candy and Coca-Cola.

And though Super 8 is an attempted send-up to classic Spielberg film-making, and even films like Stand By Me, it does neither any service, largely because the characters have no depth, Abrams paints everything with a sickening retro super-saturation, like a 1970 technicolor porno film color-corrected by Andy Warhol, and the film's denouement provides neither clarity nor satisfaction. It just doesn't make much sense, even though Super 8 is something of a combination of Close Encounters and Jaws, without the heart, attention to detail, sobriety or care of either film.

Jaws and Close Encounters, imo, are painterly masterworks. Super 8 is a jumbled spattering of acrylic on a tattered tarp up some fat dude's rectum.

One wonders then how Abrams succeeded so brilliant with Mission Impossible 3, then.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:10:00 PM

Just watched a bit of MI3 the other day on the boobtube. It's still the best MI, imo.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:10:55 PM

"When you spend about 100th of that cash and properly express your ideas, you can usually come away with a really good Carpenter flick."

lol. Carpenter, when young, could churn out a more intense film than The Abyss with just an 8mm camera, some high school play actors, and John humming the soundtrack, that's how talented he was before extraterrestrials stole his brain.
Sleuth1989 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:13:29 PM

@triggax
Little late to the party here but you mentioned how ey say Abrams is a young Spielberg and you're right that is really off? But why would they say that to begin with. In my opinion it is conditioning. See after the era of great filmmakers like Capra and Hitchc*ck, Spielberg and his gang came around. Now they admired filmmakers before them but they also sought to create new stories and ideas. Now that cycle was suppose to start again...but it never did. Instead the newer filmmakers were simply fanboys who emulated their predecessors and sought to be like them without having their own styles.

That's why directors like Abrams, David O. Russell, and company have succeeded for doing shotty, sometimes pretentious, work. Because as the quality of the older filmmakers went down the new directors took an opportunity to make what would be originally conceived as decent films by not masterful. See what I'm saying? No directors now are original but simply fanboys and imitators of classic directors. I mean think about it.

No one f*cking likes Russell for 10 years after he did Three Kings, his one decent film by most standards. Then he disappeared and reemergenced throwing out what was essentially a "Rocky" carbon copy. But since no one offers anything better it's the best audiences get so they think it's the best they can get. Now I love older filmmakers still because, if anything, they remain their own filmmakers. But there is no new wave of new thinkers, just fanboys of old thinkers. Make sense?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:13:33 PM

The Last Boy Scout is hilarious, largely thanks to snappy dialogue and great off-color interaction between Wayans and Willis, and all without much real action either, which goes to show you that a great film can be created with only two great characters and some fantastic writing.

@Cress: I agree. Mi3 is the best, largely thanks to a relentless plot and an excellently-rendered villain.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:16:21 PM

Poor Carpenter.

He lost it after '86. I know SacDaddy disagrees, as he thinks '88's PRINCE OF DARKNESS is a great film, but that movie sucked sh*t. He was awesome in the late 70s/early 80s. HALLOWEEN, THE FOG, ESCAPE/NEW YORK, STARMAN, THE THNG.

What the hell happened?
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:33:43 PM

I find it funny that a couple of exchanges from earlier between Trigimus Prime and me were deleted.

lol. Good one, Alex.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:46:33 PM

Wow really?

The prison comment?

WTF Alex. I've said some f*cked up sh*t about your mother and it remains on this site.

You're f*cked buddy.

"One wonders then how Abrams succeeded so brilliant with Mission Impossible 3, then."

Damn, I forgot he did the 3rd MI. How the f*ck did he do that? Really. Arguably the best and almost only watchable one, Palmas original was pretty decent, the closeups get to be a bit much after a while, but thats Palma.

Speaking of Palma, watched Carlitos way the other day. Forgot that it was probably the best film Palma ever touched. Way better than that over rated mess of a movie Scarface.

Sleuth.. Did you just inadvertently compare O'Russel to Capra? Because you're a smart mother f*cker if you did and I've been saying it for years.

The only decent f*cking movie he even tried to make he copied every dramatic action sequence from Michael Bay, watch it again and you will see what I am saying.

Flirting with Disaster was alright, but a shaky script and really f*cking bad sound and video editing saved by Alan Alda's sharp wit.

Everyone here is absolutely correct though, every glimmer of hope we might have for new filmmakers to give us something fresh and new drawing inspiration from our child hood heroes all they do is build clones, but clones that were made before the science was good enough to have a decent clone. Like the retarded Michael Keaton clone in Multiplicity.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:50:46 PM

Cress,

Are you telling me you didnt like Escape from LA?

C'mon man, that movie kicks ass.

I love all those post apocalyptic actioners. The Mad Max series being the jumping off point for most decent renderings.

I loathe the day Mad Max Fury Road finally makes it onto the screen.

Unless Tina Turner and a down syndrome gimp show up your movie is immediately a failure.

Beyond Thunderdome was breath taking cinema!
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:53:17 PM

If Mean Streets and Mr Smith Goes to Washington had an inbred retard love child, you would have American Hustle.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:54:08 PM

@Mink. Regarding your thoughts on "time travel" and "the future" in movies.....aren't you a big Star Trek aficionado? I know not the new stuff, but the original and TNG? How do you feel about their use if it as a "plot contrivance"?
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:56:57 PM

Also,

For the record, I strongly disliked The Warriors.

When we speak of directors that are copying other directors, take George Roy Hill for instance, Scorsese and Spielberg have both stated how big of an inspiration he was on their careers, and short of a couple films, you don't see much stealing vs pure inspiration there. With the exception of Color of Money, I felt like I was watching a poorly made Roy Hill movie.

In closing.

If there was no Michael Mann, there would be no Christopher Nolan and no Michael Bay.

There, I said it.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 8:57:50 PM

@Trig. I hated ESCAPE/LA. Come on, maaannn!! Next you'll be telling me GHOSTS OF MARS was amazing...
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:01:03 PM

@Trotfox. Why hate on MAD MAX FURY ROAD? I love post-apocalyptic actioners as well, and hope Miller BRINGS IT.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:03:06 PM

Haha.

I watched 10 minutes of Escape from LA.

Turns out it's a lot easier to make a sh*tty movie in the 70s.

Poor Carpenter. I am a huge fan though.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:03:23 PM

"Unless Tina Turner and a down syndrome gimp show up your movie is immediately a failure."

lol




cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:10:54 PM

It's baffles me that he can't get another crack at a studio gilm. He's still talented, but he just chose some sh*tty projects over the last 20 years---kinda like Eddie Murphy. I also wonder if it's his doing, though, as he blasted the "big studio mentality" after BIG TROUBLE/LITTLE CHINA flopped. Still, he mad MEMOIRS/INVISIBLE MAN and tge ESCAPE sequel with huge studio backing after his hissy fit . It's a shame he can't bigger, better work..but maybe he doesn't want it...who knows...
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:11:53 PM

^^numerous grammatical errors
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:27:07 PM

Yah I agree.

I would love to see him tackle something with a synthesizer and an old camera and no money.

The Thing IS my favorite horror film. Probably always will be.

Any thoughts on the prequel to The Thing? I applauded it for its efforts. All things considered I enjoyed it.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:30:01 PM

"If there was no Michael Mann, there would be no Christopher Nolan and no Michael Bay."

Please explain yourself. I get Mann to Nolan, but linking to MICHAEL f*ckING BAY is leap I can't fathom.

Where? Where? I'm totally open-minded to what you say, but....REALLY?




Big Daddy Cool writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:33:31 PM

the prequel thing was, at best, solid but forgettable. unremarkable CGI effects vs. the original's unforgettably unsettling practical effects. black hole of charisma joel edgerton vs. gruff but likable kurt russell. ultimately unnecessary retread vs. genuine cult classic.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:33:42 PM

I'm not sure where Bay got his start. I thought it was music commercials, which is why even his best films look like high-dollar Guns and Roses MTV videos. Definitely get Mann to Nolan though, since the latter was "heavily inspired" by Heat, but then what the f*ck isn't?

I was watching a movie just the other day, can't recall the title, but involved a robbery with a bunch off guys in black hockey masks shooting it on the street. No, it wasn't Heat. But it sure looked like it, even though the iconic and technically masterful ammunition effects were clearly missing, or should I say there, since Mann show with natural reverberations.
Big Daddy Cool writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:36:26 PM

trigga, regarding michael mann and horror films: ever seen the keep? interesting failure, imo, beautifully shot and, at times, quite well-acted, but still a mess of a movie. nonetheless, worth a watch, I think, if you're into mann.
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:39:31 PM

Cress-
That's because you are weird :) But in a good way! And no offense taken my friend.

Mink-
"Fails at telling an Entertaining story" Exactly. Also, I don't think my opinions on films are THAT bad. I've seen and know about movies that some people my age haven't even heard of. And Rome will always suck lol It's not like wine, it doesn't get better with age. :)

Trigg-
I honestly didn't care for Escape from LA. But then again that's another movie I haven't seen in near ten years.

Everyone and mink-

-Review of a million blah blah longest fuking title ever-

- A Million ways to die in the west has its pretty damn funny moments, but what it also has is just as many lame moments with jokes that are just overused nowadays and shouldn't be in any more films. Ever.

I did enjoy the film, however I wouldn't exactly recommend it too anyone looking for a really good comedy. The first 30 minutes weren't the best but indeed it did pickup. The later half was much much better. They did have a couple scenes unfelt could have been cut out.

Overall I'd give it a Six out of Ten, MAYBE a seven out of ten. Liam Neeson plays a good bad guy as well lol
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:42:33 PM

@Trident. THE THING, ALIEN, and POLTERGEIST are ny fave horror films ever. Like you said, I applauded the makers of THE THING(2011) for their efforts, but for me, I was disappointed. It was almost a carbon copy of Carpenter's original--second verse, same as the first. I loved the FX, it mimiced the '82s look with excellent CGI. I loved the fact that we saw the Norwegian camp's storyline--very cool. Mary Elizabeth Winstead, who I love, was so boringly one-note in her performance. It never had the tension or jolts Carpenter's film had.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:43:19 PM

@Cress: Regarding TNG and time travel...some of the episodes use time travel intelligently, or if not, then creatively and in ways that make you consider the paradox of traveling into your own past.

Episodes such as Cause and Effect, Yesterday's Enterprise, All Good Things and Tapestry are excellent and exciting, imo, and although used as a plot device, they generally reveal something important and thoughtful to the audience, whereas episodes like Matter of Time and Firstborn use time travel as a means to make the story work, which is different than the story being about the actual effects of altering the past.

Voyager was really bad about using time to advance what was otherwise a sh*tty plot, and thus there are few time-travel episodes in that series worth discussing.

As for the movies...The Voyage Home's use of time-travel was a plot contrivance just to put the crew back in the 20th century and I felt it was done merely to keep the budget down. It had to have been a cheap movie to make. Same for First Contact, although the plot more immediately and importantly revolves around the results of their trip into the past, whereas in TVH, the viewer likely doesn't give a f*ck, not really, if the crew returns to the future with a whale or two, even if the future of Earth depends on it. The consequences just aren't as plainly dire to the audience.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:47:52 PM

@Big Daddy. Holy sh*t, you saw that film too? I just watched it a couple months ago. I couldn't believe it was a Michael Mann film. Very terrible. I think Ian McClellan can be extremely old at any age. It kinda had an interesting storyline, but poorly executed...it almost belonged in the 70s (if that makes any sense).
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:51:27 PM

Regarding The Thing prequel...an excellent attempt if you're judging it on in the merit of working within a very tight box, in that the story was largely already written by the Carpenter film, thus there was little for the director to do but accentuate the given material, which I don't think he did as well as he could. Pretty much a paint-by-the-numbers films that excells at not sucking, which is what everyone imagined the film would do simply because it's a non-Carpenter prequel film with a pre-fabricated story.

The VFX...not all that great, certainly inferior to John's practical effects from the first film, but in understand the costs of good practical effects and the ease with which one can whip up a complete monster in a few hours.

The acting...mediocre. No stand-out performances. Winstead could have gone Ripley on us, and though we'd recognized it as a cliche, it would have been more welcome to her indifferent, bored performance.


All in all, a surprisingly decent film, but not without grievous flaws that prevent it from achieving any lasting fame or cult status, except perhaps to fans of the original film, who in all likelihood will be split by outright hostility versus cool indifference.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:52:26 PM

*film *excels
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:52:58 PM

^^numerous grammatical errors
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:54:34 PM

"One day, when he's eighty, he might even think Rome is a cool place."

I know, Tanman, what the f*ck? You went to Rome and found it boring??? Can I slap you? It's "love-slaps", because I love you but hate you at the same time, dumbass.

If I showed you the first bowl primordial man created, you'd probably pee in it.

minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 9:58:04 PM

Regarding The Keep:

The Keep's greatest, most exacting failure isn't within the film itself but in the comparison to the actual book, written by F. Paul Wilson.

Fans of Mann should know that much, and they should know that Wilson rejected Mann's vision, which is at times quite stunning and ethereal, but so bizarre and unusual compared to cinema of that time, that it bears little resemblance to both the book, which is one of Wilson's best, or to the reality of 1980s film-making, even when compared to films like Legend.

Just one of those rare moments where Mann said f*ckall to the source material (similar to Manhunter but without the failure of execution) and to convention and went off on an artsy tangent that even today has people wondering what the f*ck was going through Mann's mind when he filmed it.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:00:00 PM

The Keep reminds me of a bad Judas Priest music video, if such a thing exists, or any music video by Aerosmith....
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:01:13 PM

@Tanman: thanks for the honest appraisal. Basically a bit better than most critics, who seem to think the film is largely a total failure, aside from the A-list casting performances.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:06:37 PM

Well Cress. I dont think its an accident that Mann has produced some of Bays films.

On the old phone now. Wont go into detail.

As for the keep. The original cut is actually quite the experience. Mink has it right using the term to ethereal for 80s cinema.

Cress. Watch LA Takedown and tell me you can't see the glaring similarties to early action shots from Bay. I get that Mann kind of let his own ego take over what was important but as far as technical influences in the crime drama, Manns reach is too far to measure.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:06:46 PM

"Really. Arguably the best and almost only watchable one, Palmas original was pretty decent, the closeups get to be a bit much after a while, but thats Palma."


So you too noticed the annoying Dutch angles, huh? Why the f*ck was he experimenting with a high-concept film? Any thoughts?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:08:23 PM

I think I have a copy of the LaserDisc cut of The Keep. Is there another one around? I know it wasn't released on DVD or BluRay...
Big Daddy Cool writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:13:41 PM

^ that's the higher quality version that's available, vs. the only other version, the VHS-rip.

ian mckellan's notes on the keep (including some neat pictures of the set):

http://www.mckellen.com/cinema/keep/notes.htm
Sleuth1989 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:14:02 PM

@triggax
LOL Thanks but compared to you and mink I feel about as smart as a 5th grader who has trouble with his multiplication. I love Capra films and Russell needs to go back to film school. He sold out to create overly eccentric Films with almost zero relation to life. And isn't that the best of film? I mean think about this.

The best films involved some kind of personal drive in them. That's what is missing in film nowadays. Life experience. It's what made every great film or at least having a wider range of experiences. We're too sheltered now. Russell makes films that a decade ago be laughed out of film festivals. We need filmmakers from, and I can't believe I'm saying this, sh*tty childhoods.

I mean think about it. Most great filmmakers and actors had messed up lives which they then used to fuel their work. Scorcese lived in the Bronx or Hell's Kitchen, I forget, Spielberg was from a broken home, and so on. What made film great was using the drama of real life to tell a greater story. Now we make it up as we go along. THE best part of Russell's "instant classic" Silver Linings Playbook was the father/son relationship. Why? Cause Russell made the film for his son who has a form of bipolar disorder.

We need people with real stories I tell and not rely on over eccentric concepts. Otherwise the films lose sight of connecting to te audience long term and not just in the initial burn of seeing the film. Great films could be great even after seeing them a dozen times because there was such life put them. That's what we need.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:14:12 PM

Mann has produced some of Bay's films? No sh*t...I honestly didn't know that....

Christ, this may make me rethink everything about Michael Mann...

Wait...Spielberg has worked with Bay.?..what the f*ck....oh no...is this "The End Times"?
Big Daddy Cool writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:15:24 PM

"Ever-diligent, I had specially made my first trip to Bucharest and then had a couple of lessons from a dialect coach in London. So by the first day of filming I was ready to sound and feel authentically Romanian. Just before my first take as Dr. Cuza, Michael said: 'Drop the accent - make him more Chicago.' Well, if the writer/producer/director makes a request, you jump to it."

--mckellen

Sleuth1989 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:15:54 PM

real stories to tell*
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:18:34 PM

I'm sorry, but can anyone explain in detail how David O. Russell and Frank Capra have anything in common? Not seeing the comparison at all. Or it just because they both made movies with American in the title?
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:20:02 PM

"Make him more Chicago".

Christ...I don't have to make a joke. This is the funniest thing I've read today.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:22:48 PM

Thought the same thing, which is funny since the f*cking movie is set during the 1940s during a battle between Nazis and an Eastern European "monster".
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:24:45 PM

@Cress: Trig is f*cking with you. Mann hasn't produced any Bay films, not that I can see, but you can check for yourself

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000520/
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:25:56 PM

@Mink. Well, I think if you were to ask Sleuth, he would say no one gives a sh*t about a David O'Russell film just like a Frank Capra film nowadays.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:27:16 PM

@Cress: lol, that's sad, because It Happened on Night and Mr. Smith Goes to Washington are true American classics.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:29:59 PM

TangoRatTrax f*cked with me?

triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:35:19 PM

Although I am f*cking with Cress. Just a little. If you dig deep enough you can find the percentage of shares owned by Mann in bruckheimer/simpson.

which tells you everything you need to know really.

Peter Berg is another example of a young director that would be f*ck all without Mann.

with that said. Mann himself wouldn't be who he is without William Freidkin.

Mink. Its an interesting comparison but even some of the character interaction in The Fighter was lifted almost word for word from Its a Wonderful Life.

Visual comparisons arent really there. Like I said he prefers to rip off Scorsese and Coppola.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:38:18 PM

Well, I must watch those flicks, f*cker, because you recommended MAGNOLIA, which I watched, loved, bought.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:39:48 PM

^^@Mink
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:39:48 PM

@Trig: well, I can see that, although I can't recall the given dialogue of which you mention. I'll have to dig out my copy of such and such to see the connection, but you have to admit that It's A Wonderful Life is such a looming movie both in the film business and the popular culture that just because some director rips it off doesn't mean they're artistically inspired by or an acolyte of Capra. It might just mean they're a mindless hack who steals from seventy year-old films because a) they have no creativity and b) they think no one will notice.

I differentiate between the outright thief and the truly inspired artist.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:40:31 PM

:)
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:42:17 PM

"Just a little. If you dig deep enough you can find the percentage of shares owned by Mann in bruckheimer/simpson."

Yeah, that's definitely true, but those guys have infinite thumbs, one for every possible pie, so the fact that Mann's d*ck is in Bruckheimer's huge gaping wet p*ssy doesn't surprise me the least because it's a massive financial daily gang-bang with those folks.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:44:06 PM

@Cress: Magnolia's a great movie, if for no other reason than for its exceptionally amazing editing and cinematography, although I haven't seen it in a while.

Right now I'm making a list of movies mentioned in this thread and queuing them up for download.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:47:30 PM

Thoughts on 2010?
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:48:16 PM

Mmm Magnolia, was, just alright, IMO.

Wanna see something spectacular from PTA. Watch Shallow Grave.

Also Mink, I see what you're saying about Russel, and had that been the case, because,
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:51:14 PM

If you don't stop mentioning movies I haven't seen, Trig, I'm going to punch you in the c*ck.

lol.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:52:02 PM

Woops,

Because, I personally, have been watching good directors rip off good dialog from Capra for about 30 years, then I'd say no big deal, but when he does it in his first outing, being the conflict between father and father in law, in Flirting With Disaster, (Mr Smith Goes to Washington) and the relationship between Bale and Renner in American Hustle (again, Mr Smith) strangely resembles a lot of the dialog between Jefferson and the senator.. played by......Claude rains???? sound right? either way, Too many f*cking similarities man. Like I said, unless I was sitting next to you ripping these apart it is difficult to show you what I mean, but it is f*cking blatant I am telling you man, blatant.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:53:23 PM

Shallow Grave is Danny Boyle, Trig. I know because I just downloaded it.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:54:42 PM

Dude.

Shallow Grave was AWESOME!

Personal opinion here. I love Paul Thomas Anderson. I do.

I felt that Magnolia suffered from a lot of the same problems Pulp Fiction suffered from, could have been better with a more linear narrative.

Punch Drunk Love was absolute perfection IMO. There Will be Blood, was his attempt at oscar bait but still great and The Master was his masterwork at oscar bait, still good.

Shallow Grave started it all and it was absolutely f*cking amazing.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:55:26 PM

HAHAHA


MY BAD!@!

HARD EIGHT. I feel stupid.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:56:04 PM

Shallow Grave was f*cking sweet, not sure why I got the names mixed up, there is a similarity there, I can't put my finger on it.

I was thinking of Hard Eight.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:56:24 PM

2010 The Movie OR year in film?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:57:43 PM

@Triggax: so you're saying Russell isn't nearly the brilliant director as some claim? That he liberally steals from semi-public domain movies because he can't create his own damned dialogue?

Sounds like we've finally found someone worse than Zach Snyder, then.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:58:21 PM

Damn, now I wanna watch Shallow Grave, next to Sunshine, it would be my favorite Boyle film.

Another under rated film by Boyle that was just f*cking excellent, and one of the only films I enjoyed Cameron Diaz in, A Life Less Ordinary.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:58:22 PM

@Cress: the movie.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 10:59:39 PM

2010, better than 2001.

f*ck anyone that says different.

Roy Scheider kicks ass.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:00:47 PM

Trig, what did I tell you about mentioning movies I haven't seen?
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:01:28 PM

Since I am now on the topic of Peter Hyams, Running Scared, with Billy Crystal, is one of my favorite action comedies from the 80s' seriously. AWESOME movie.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:05:59 PM

My friends hate me when I start talking about movies.

Good thing I don't have many friends.

Back to the topic of The Keep.

Mink, Big Daddy, I have a reel 2 reel from 1984 that was purchased directly from Alberta Watson, She had 3 copies of the film, still in the original can, and I can tell you, I have the enhanced laser disc version and the Reel version has an extra, ooh, about 25 minutes of footage. A lot of the extra footage are long scenery shots but it makes the film that much better.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:06:17 PM

I love Paul Thomas Anderson. I own BOOGIE NIGHTS. I went the theater and saw THE MASTER in 2012, one of only 3 films that I went to theater to see that year. So, with that being said, does PTA make memorable movies? I mean, 30 years from now, will his films still hold a ceratain significance in the realm of "great modern fimmakers"? Or is it too early to make that call?
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:07:00 PM

How long have you been in the movie business, Trig? And you need to transfer that reel-to-reel to digital for us and upload it to The Bay. I'd love to see it.
Sleuth1989 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:08:54 PM

@Triggax
That was impressive how you noticed all those similarities. Point is though is that his movies, in general, seem
like rip-offs. It feels like they are going through the motions in the plotting's outcome. You know what I mean?
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:10:48 PM

Mink- No problem at all.

Cress-
My butt hole patiently awaits your tongue.
No homo tho! :)

Anyways, I'm back to watching the final season of ER. Abby left last episode, wasn't my favorite character but she's been around for about 7+ seasons.

Oh, and this is the season when all the old cast reunites for like fife episodes! Can't wait to see John Carters return and Doug Ross! Ross is only in one episode tho..

(George Clooney probably had SOOO much more going on that month..) f*cker.. Oh well, Noah Wyles character John Carter was easily my favorite throughout the show so I'm just happy to see him return for a couple episodes.


Who the hell am I talking to.. Nobody?
Cool. Had a pulled pork Poutine tonight.
Was delicious..
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:12:46 PM

I just bought the full reel version of Stallones Judge Dredd last week, I've watched it like 6 times since last Wednesday.

Laaaaaawwwwww!

Anyone remember how f*cking awesome Michael Douglas used to be?

f*ck I just watched Black Rain for the 8 billionth time a few weeks ago, so good, I have this Peter Hyams thing in my head, what was the name of the movie? I was thinking starman cause Cress said starman, The Star something... Chamber? I can't remember, I remember it being awesome though.
Big Daddy Cool writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:13:04 PM

"Mink, Big Daddy, I have a reel 2 reel from 1984 that was purchased directly from Alberta Watson, She had 3 copies of the film, still in the original can, and I can tell you, I have the enhanced laser disc version and the Reel version has an extra, ooh, about 25 minutes of footage. A lot of the extra footage are long scenery shots but it makes the film that much better."

that's pretty nifty. how the hell did you manage to get in contact with her?

minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:14:09 PM

@Cress: that's a hard one to say. You'd have to know where culture is going first. You'd have to know what people are likely to appreciate in the year 2050, for instance.

Will PTA, then, be an obscure filmmaker? Dunno. Certainly Cameron and Spielberg won't be forgotten, especially Jimmy, but one wonders how much people will care about someone like PTA who didn't make movies in 3D for Imax, which is where things are trending.

PTA's influence and significance at this point isn't determinable, and he could easily end up in the forgotten pile. Certainly his works wouldn't be much different than those of many a yesteryear filmmaker now forgotten by the masses, although PTA will certainly always have a niche place for true film fans.

Really, aside from Shining, how many people could tell you much about Kubrick, even?
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:15:33 PM

Pulled Pork Poutine..

Nice job my fellow Canadian.

I've been meaning to try the Butter Chicken poutine. Sounds kinda gross but boy do I love Poutine.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:16:18 PM

Alberta Watson was a massive douche c*nt in 24. That's all I know about her.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:16:46 PM

"Cress-
My butt hole patiently awaits your tongue."

Can I use that line with my girlfriend? If it's trademaked/cpyrighted", I understand. Much love...

minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:18:21 PM

Trig, that was The Star Chamber, if you;re talking about the Hyams film with Douglass, and yes, he used to be awesome. You need only watch The Game and Falling Down to appreciate his talents.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:18:49 PM

Mink, I've been a member of NATO (Haha north american theater owners) since My first purchased reel (African Queen)in 1981, I was 11 years old.

When my dad died he left me his theater, it's not the only thing I do, mind you, I am a machinist by trade, the theater, (we were showcased in box office magazine 3 times) being one of 4 silver screen cinemas left in Canada, is going good enough, we've had possible sales of the property that never went through and the business is always up and down, I had a David Lean double feature for 2 weeks, almost killed us, who would have though there are almost no people left on earth that can sit through Lawrence of Arabia on the big screen...

I've sat through it a dozen times and it gets better every time.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:20:08 PM

lol, I swear to Baby Jesus if Alex deletes all these comments, I'll make it my life mission to hack this website and delete everything on the server...
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:21:31 PM

@Trig: you're a hardcore film motherf*cker, and you have my respect.

lol
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:21:50 PM

Star Chamber, NICE! f*cking awesome movie.

Yeah, the games Finchers best movie, no argument, I did enjoy Fight Club, the book was better, hard to make a Palahniuk SP? book to film, Fincher did a good job.

Did you see Agent Coulsons rendition of Choke? With Sam Rockwell?

That was sad, such a raunchy book made into a PG13 movie for NO REASON, not like anyone was watching.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:23:53 PM

"...that's a hard one to say. You'd have to know where culture is going first. You'd have to know what people are likely to appreciate in the year 2050, for instance."

Goddammit, Mink. For someone that pisses me off to no end, I really enjoy reading your comments, you f*cking badtard.


triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:26:03 PM

Thanks, movies are my life dude. I may not be the most articulate f*cking guy out there but I know movies and I love them.

I have a lot of stories. We had a Prince dbl feature in 1997, we played Burtons Batman with Purple Rain aferward, pretty good turn out for a prince dbl feature.. haha, gotta keep it fresh, long story short, every single person left the theater for Purple rain except for 2 people that died, ironic, maybe is the word, one woman died on the balcony from a heart attack at about 100 years old, and some kid died in the 2nd row from a prescription drug over dose.

Lots of stories. I had Kirk Douglas come through Creston on a ski trip and he stopped at the theater on a Friday and came to a sold out showing of Spartacus on Saturday. Really f*cking nice guy that at an earlier age could out drink Olly Reed.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:26:25 PM

Trig,

I've read more than a few of Palahniuk's books, and I agree Fincher did a bangup job in translating Fight Club to film, but it is, of all Chuck's books, the more traditionally narrative one.

And no, I never saw Choke, but I've read the book, so I knew what to expect, which is why the movie adaptation never found its way into my eyes.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:29:48 PM

@Cress: lol, thanks, but this is a rare night: Trig's brought his enormous film energy to the fore, so for the moment, no Days of Future Past/Godzilla/Spiderman negative, bored bantering from me.

A miracle it is!
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:29:54 PM

Mink pisses off users with insecurities, the guy is easy to talk to, problem is, nobody wants to.

Like barely anybody here, for whatever reason will even talk about movies, unless I somehow find the time to go on rants with ol' minky.

Why is that? who f*cking cares.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:30:34 PM

Goddammit...I've been commenting for 5 hours?

Go kill yourself, loser.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:31:08 PM

Cress, you never did tell me what yo thought of 2010...
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:31:42 PM

lol@Cress
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:34:20 PM

DOFP..have you even seen it yet, or just talking sh*t again based on preconceived notions? You know you do..
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:34:53 PM

Mink-
I don't know that much about Kubrick but I would have to say that based on my limite knowledge about him, it's not hard to see that he's one of the best directors of our generation.

You've got to watch Room 237 sometime. A lot of it is silly but it's really interesting, they talk a lot about some of Kubricks conspiracy theories.

Also mink-
It's be a shame to see Alex delete these comments. For once there's nearly 200 comments without some asshat starting a lame and Usless fight claiming to be the king of this site.

Trigg-
Haven't had that one either yet. Poutine is delicious, it's sad that 90% of Americans don't know what it is and will never taste it's deliciousness.

Cress-
It's yours my friend lol Use it wisely, for such lines comes with great responsibilities!
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:36:43 PM

4 users commenting.. Lol
Dark and his aliases most be banned again haha
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:36:49 PM

My thing about this place is that it has degenerated into "I want to eat her sh*t", and people posting two words raves about comic book movies, and then when I get bored and sick of reading that sh*t and try to start a fight, people tell me I'm a troll who hates movies, when in reality while I may be a troll, I certainly do NOT hate movies, it's just that no one here ever talks about them, and when they do it's some Marvel garbage, or it's with absolutely no zeal, no energy, no passion. Or it's all a huge popularity contest. Or a manipulation.

Really, I think most of the people here hate all movies that aren't hot and fresh right out of Fox, Sony, or Marvel's steaming *sshole.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:37:08 PM

I hear ya, I just wish I had more time.

I can go on for years about just about any kind of movie, I like making suggestions.

I watch The Big Sleep, and if I know you, Mink, and you haven't seen it, add it to the queue, everything you wanted Bogart to be in Casablanca but you were limited by the MPAA at the time, he pulls off with absolute style in The Big Sleep, Lauren Becalls only really good big screen attempt and Bogarts absolute FINEST film.

When a bitch gets out of line, if you want to know how to put her in her place perfectly, watch The Big Sleep, with a notebook.

This was Howard Hawk, he was a womanizing alcoholic, he beat women and he used to talk mad sh*t about his biggest producer, which I actually find funny they never touched on in The Aviator, they made Howard Hughes out to be this big hollywood guy, great film, but he wasn't a big hollywood guy, he was a f*cking hermit that used his money to bang hot celebrities and put them in other peoples movies.

Howard Hawks hated him, Cagney hated him, their biggest achievements were paid for by Howard Hughes. Interestingly enough. Jean Harlow was a f*cking whore.

I heard a story years ago that Hawks and Hughes lit her up like a candle from both ends and they had to cover her in make up for Red Dust because she had 2 black eyes during the entire filming of it. One from Hawks one from Hughes.

Good story. She was a whore.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:39:21 PM

@Cress: I have nothing against Days of Future Past,and I was the film's largest, and perhaps only, supporter back when you guys were bashing it and Singer. I have absolutely nothing against it, really, I just don't want to read a thousand posts and articles on it because it's not the only movie in existence simply because it's the latest toy from Fox Studios.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:40:06 PM

i was watching the big sleep*
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:40:29 PM

2010.

I liked it, but part of that might've partly due to a need to find out what happened after 2001.

It is a completeley different, totally 80s film (meaning the editing, the cinematography, etc.). Really, 2001 and 2010 are about a million miles apart in terms of story and tonr....tone especially.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:40:54 PM

@Triggax: f*ck you! lol. I've certainly seen the Big Sleep. Excellent f*cking film. Bogart was wrong for the part, but I say that as a huge fan of Raymond Chandler.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:44:29 PM

room 237 was annoying as f*ck. that is all.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:46:00 PM

wow look at us go.

all that time and no updates.

your sh*t f*cking attention to your bullsh*t site sure makes for good conversation, alex.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:46:17 PM

Trig, Did you ever see the remake of Red Dust? Mogambo? What did you think? Who did it better? Fleming or Ford?
DriveMemento writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:48:12 PM

http://www.refinery29.com/2014/06/68888/lupita-nyongo-gwendoline-christie-star-wars-episode-vii
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:49:12 PM

lol@your Jean Harlow anecdote. Dunno though if you meant they ran the train on her or if they beat her black and blue. Maybe both. Sad though she died at such a young age while doing...Saratoga? They had to use doubles to finish IIRC. Reminds of Paul Walker. Well, except Harlowe had talent.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:50:11 PM

@Cress: thanks for the opinion. I've got a copy now and will watch it when I can. Should be a good watch if it's 80s entertainment, as you say.
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:50:37 PM

Goodnight fellas.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:51:44 PM

Bastard! lol.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:53:29 PM

2010

Promising start for Hyams. I must rewatch
OUTLAND again because, really, he was chosen to do 2010 because of that film. Didn't he crap out "big-studio-wise" when that Crichton dino-time travel flick bombed?
triggax writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:54:10 PM

Mink, both.

I think you're right, I believe it was Saratoga. I would have to look into it, and I am too old for the IMBD.. Haha, worst previews is about the only website I am good on...

And the porn, im good with the porn websites.

You on the twitter there Mink?

Hahah, message me more info Mink, these conversation don't JUST have to take place here man.

triggax@msn.com

Cant wait to see what pops up there.

Im going to bed. It's been a real slice boys.
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:54:38 PM

Trigg-
I never said it was amazing, I said it was interesting. Lol.
And goodnight man.
cress writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:57:12 PM

Mink...are you talking about 2010? If you are, then, reeaaally? No way--you've seen it.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:57:13 PM

Looking over 2010...Hyams didn't really have his own visual style for this movie. Lots of Alien- and 2001-esque shots.

Then again, Hyams's Outland was stylistically very similar to Alien too.
minkowski writes:
on June 2nd, 2014 at 11:59:42 PM

@Cress: I don't discount the possibility I caught 2010 as a child on network television one lazy Saturday afternoon, but looking it over I see nothing that looks familiar.

Definitely Peter Hyams sci-fi though. lol.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:00:54 AM

Goodnight Trig, you Canuckistan bastard.

lol.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:02:01 AM

Oh sh*t, Hyams just did the 2001 floating pen thing. f*ck me.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:05:38 AM

minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:06:30 AM

Cool movie though. I love the look of the set designs. Very 80s. Reminds me of LiteBrights.
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:07:26 AM

@Trichomoniasis. Goodnight, sweet prince. You big Canadian bear. Come out of hibernation in another 6 months. Betcha JB is still here
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:10:11 AM

@Mink. The deleted takes of that scene are pretty funny. Scheider keeps having problems..
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:10:23 AM

I think you mean Trichotillomania.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:12:15 AM

@Cress: In what way? With the pen? I bet Scheider had no clue where the pen would appear in the final film.
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:13:17 AM

Tanman Bored... :(
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:19:15 AM

LOL Mink. I was seriously about to ignore your post as I thought you were being a d*ck, but I googled "trichotillomania" and had good laugh.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:22:51 AM

^^^lol, no that was the only other word I could think of that starts with "trich", other than trick, but there's no need to bring Trig's mother into the discussion.
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:23:51 AM

@Cress. Lack of conjunctive words makes one sound like a caveman.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:24:31 AM

@Tanman: dude, you have like a thousand movies AND the internet plus god only knows how many video games, plus family, and you're STILL bored?

I feel for ya kid, but I just don't understand it.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:28:32 AM

216 comments, or the exact number of bones Sarah Connor says is in the human body.

It's actually 206 bones, Jimmy.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:29:32 AM

Whoops. It's 215, which is what Sarah says.

Damned movie trivia.
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:32:11 AM

@Tanman. I have a laser pointer that shoots a red dot out on any surface, and you can chase it forever, and ever, and ever....
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:37:16 AM

Cress-
Can I bring my cat? He loves that little red dot! Lol

Mink-
This is true.. Don't feel like comiting to an hour and a half to two hour long movie at 12:35am though lol Problem is I'm not tired.. I'll probably just throw on another episode of ER...

cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:41:40 AM

@Tanman. Sure, I love p*ssy.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:44:13 AM

Leaked Star Wars photo sets

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5771814/star-wars-7-set-photos-leaked-show-giant-creature
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:45:13 AM

@Cress: are you Dustin Putman?

@Tanman: I'm telling you, throw on some 48 Hours Mystery. That sh*t is good, and it's reality.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:47:52 AM

More Star Wars 7 art

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5772708/star-wars-episode-vii-looks-inspired-by-original-trilogy-artist-ralph
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:51:24 AM

^^^Awesome, Mink. I loved how it talked about this in THE VERY FIRST POST .
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:54:24 AM

"Tanman: I'm telling you, throw on some 48 Hours Mystery. That sh*t is good, and it's reality."

AUTOPSY: It was on HBO mid'90s to early 2000s. Awesome


Tanman32123 writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:55:26 AM

Mink-

Don't think I've ever heard of it lol
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:56:09 AM

You're being a d*ck. I can return the favor if that's how you want to play it, Cressywessy.

Regardless, I don't read the first 23 posts. I skipped to the Trig on and went from there.

Plus, no one posted the concept art link, just the alien set photo one.

I deserve, at least, half-credit.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:56:43 AM

That was @Cress.







@Tanman: lots of them on youtube, bud.
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 12:56:58 AM

it=I in my first post

Godammit
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:00:15 AM

@Cress: I've heard of that show. Stars that Baden guy who is a real life ME IIRC. Kind of monotonous though, since once you dissect one body you dissect them all. Only so many pathologies you can illuminate too. Here's a smoker's lung, here's cirrhosis of the liver, here's a cancerous brain. You know.

On other other hand, 48 Hours Mystery is different each time, although it's usually some variation of souse murders spouse.

I prefer CourtTV's Forensic Files, but you usually can't get it on Youtube.
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:00:18 AM

Ok, Mink, not being a d*ck. Just didn't know you start reading a book on the 24th chapter. But who the f*ck am I to compare comments at a movie site to passages in a book.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:01:37 AM

Oh, I see. 45 photos from TMZ. Sorry. I was looking for a link which wasn't posted until Rambo linked it. My bad.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:03:16 AM

"But who the f*ck am I to compare comments at a movie site to passages in a book."


That's a damned good question since book chapters are sequential and of similar content, whereas comments are random and usually variegated in nature.
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:04:48 AM

Thank god for people linking stuff in the comments section or we would have to rely on Alex for movie news.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:09:09 AM

Who the f*ck is Alex?
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:12:08 AM

Doesn't ring a bell! ^
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:12:52 AM

I hear tales he once ran this establishment; a crusty Yank who smelled like shoe polish.

Don't know what happened to him. I suspect Indians, though.
minkowski writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 1:18:47 AM

Now THAT was funny, you f*ck.
Tanman32123 writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 2:02:32 AM

Looks like all you f*cks have gone to bed! Night!
cress writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 2:12:12 AM

Tanman...I'm in it to win it, bitch. And by that I mean I'll be passing out in about 20 minutes.

Eyelids heavy.....must...get sleep...

I've been down on my end for the past hour, but now that I'm back up, I just want to say I'll be passing the f*ck out shortly. :)
c-prime writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 4:50:29 AM

An entire thread devoted almost purely to conversation on JUST movies. What a beautiful sight.

I wish I hadn't missed it.
c-prime writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 4:51:27 AM

Makes for good reading, though. I'll have to watch some of these flicks that were brought up.
Papillon writes:
on June 3rd, 2014 at 6:31:53 AM

This is the most interesting thread I've read in years.

Really pleasant.

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Paul Bettany Responds to Jason Statham's "Avengers" Insult

Daniel Craig Would Rather Commit Suicide Than Return as James Bond

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Johnny Depp and Edgar Wright Team for "Fortunately, the Milk"

Marvel Has Contingency Plans In Case It Regains Rights to Superheroes
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