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"The Fifth Estate" is Biggest Flop of 2013

Posted: November 30th, 2013 by WorstPreviews.com Staff
"The Fifth Estate" is Biggest Flop of 2013Submit Comment
Benedict Cumberbatch's WikiLeaks movie "The Fifth Estate" didn't get the best reviews, but it definitely didn't deserve to be the biggest flop of 2013. According to Forbes, that's exactly what it turned out to be.

Despite having a relatively thrifty budget of $28 million, "The Fifth Estate" only managed to bring in $6 million globally. That's a return of just 21 cents on the dollar, the worst performance out of all 2013 wide releases.

"We were all so excited because it was just in the news recently, but the opposite might be true, that it simply wore out its welcome and that there is something about Assange," said director Bill Condon. "I do think there's something about him that does not suggest an evening's entertainment."

Other films that Forbes considers flops are "Bullet to the Head," "Paranoia," "Parker," and "Broken City."

Source: Forbes


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Skywalker121289 writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 11:41:55 AM

Um... Lone Ranger?
shafe41 writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 11:58:21 AM

Or how about the fact that it's about a subject that is just plain uninteresting to 99% of the movie-going audience these days?
M. Bullitt writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 12:10:56 PM

What a surprise! I don't even want to download this boring sh*t.
velocityknown writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 12:32:55 PM

@Skywalker

Lone Ranger made more money on the dollar.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 12:54:20 PM

i thought the biggest flop was my weiner after googling Mayim Bialiks boobs

i'd still plow that lil dumper
minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 1:58:10 PM

The Lone Ranger made 260mil on a 215PB, so that's over a dollar earned on a dollar spent.

Not the highest ROI, but compare that to The Fifth Estate, which earned only a quarter for every dollar spent.

Come on folks....Box Office Mojo and calc.exe. It's not that hard.

If Alex can do it, so can you.
Cinemaisdead writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 2:08:10 PM

Benedict c*mberthatch looks proper stupid with that blonde hair. I think it's one of the rare occasions that the Hollywood actor playing the part is actually uglier than the original guy.
minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 2:17:20 PM

minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 2:28:02 PM

Assange's head is wider than it's tall. Must be why he's stuck inside the Ecuadoran embassy.
BlackDynamite writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 5:37:53 PM

Martin freeman looks more like Assange than c*mberbatch
Jedimax writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 6:04:43 PM

I kind of hate articles like this cause by focusing on the cent per dollar statistics you are always going to bring in these small/middle level medium releases that didn't take off, as opposed to looking closely at big studios, for example Lone Ranger has earned 260 million worldwide, and was made for a budget of "215 million" but when you take into account that they probably spent 5x the budget of The Fifth Estate to market the film you end up seeing how much of a disaster this can be for a big studio, even this summer Disney was stating that they estimated 160-190 million dollar loss on Lone Ranger, which obviously is much larger total dollar loss then The Fifth Estate...
minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 6:22:15 PM

Even if Disney spent 100million marketing The Lone rangers, that's STILL less a loss than that of The Fifth Estate, which probably spent another five to ten million or so in marketing themselves.

So...40million total to 6 million = 0.15 on the dollar versus 315 million to 260 million, which equals 0.80 to the dollar. Even 415 mil to 260 mil is still 60 cents to the dollar versus The Fifth Estate's dime and nickle.

No matter how you spin it, The Lone Ranger is the bigger success/smaller failure.



Sorry, but them's the maths.
Jedimax writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 6:34:27 PM

I'm not arguing the math, I am saying that if your doing it by cent to the dollar then your always going to bring in films like The Fifth Estate, but there is still a lot to be said by the statistic of total dollars lost, besides Forbes is probably only checking films that had played in a certain numbers of theaters and for a certain number of weeks, I am sure there are some films that came out this years that were made for 10 million that spent only 1 week in NYC and Los Angeles, I mean that Lindsey Lohan indie The Canyons grossed like 50 grand this year, I wonder what their loss on the cent is, and that's not even the lowest earner of films that IFC has distributed this year...
Cinemaisdead writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 6:51:55 PM

Looking at those pictures they're both pretty ugly but BlackDynamite has a point, he has got more Freeman like qualities than c*mberthatches weasel face.
minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 6:58:52 PM

"but there is still a lot to be said by the statistic of total dollars lost"

Well, that's true, but Hollywood, and most businesses/corporations don't see it that way. They see it as a function of ROI, which is return on investment, which is calculated as gain from investment minus cost of investment, all divided by cost of investment.

So, The Lone Ranger cost 216 million, but made 260 million. So 260-216 is 44, which is then divided by 216, which is 0.2% ROI.

On the other hand, The Fifth Estate cost 28 million, then minus the 6, all divided by 28 million again, which is -0.7% ROI. *Negative* 0.7%.

So even by ROI, The Fifth Estate is a larger flop.



As to why they just don't look at total money lost....because that's not how it works and that's not they do it, and to be honest, it's not a very informative way to see what you've earned/lost versus what you've invested.



As for The Canyons...well, I have no idea the film's PB, but seeing as how the film made only 55k in theaters, dunno.

Assuming a 10mil PB, I got -0.999% ROI which is virtually a total loss. But I don't know if they include limited release films, or films pulled before they can fully compete in wide release.

Another question for another day, perhaps.
minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 6:59:53 PM

Definitely true, Cinema

minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 7:00:34 PM

+how.
minkowski writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 7:02:59 PM

@Cinema: c*minhersnatch is "hot" right now, thanks to Sherlock and Star Trek into Failure, so putting him in the film was a (rather stupid) way to sex up a sh*tty film no one wants to see, especially not the 15 to 28 demo.

Martin Freeman wouldn't have helped because people aren't seeing this film (at all) for similarities to Assange.
Cinemaisdead writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 8:24:06 PM

Mink- This is true, don't get me wrong c*mberthatch is a brilliant actor and to be fair Martin Freeman might not have it in him to play a serious role like this even if they did want him. I haven't seen it yet but apparently its a snooze fest, it's hard to sex up sitting on the computer typing for ages and receiving emails.
Stapes writes:
on November 30th, 2013 at 9:41:22 PM

Great doc*mentary to recommend relating to this subject: We steal secrets.

As for Bach and Assange, both share a remarkable similarity to my dogs' *sshole.
minkowski writes:
on December 1st, 2013 at 7:42:27 PM

@Cinema: true, but Fincher could have done much more with the material.

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