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Idris Elba Met With Producers to Replace Daniel Craig as James Bond?

Posted: November 22nd, 2013 by WorstPreviews.com Staff
Idris Elba Met With Producers to Replace Daniel Craig as James Bond?Submit Comment
Daniel Craig has said several times that the next actor to play James Bond should be black. In the past, P. Diddy expressed interest in the role and so has Idris Elba, who apparently met with the producers at one point, only to be told that he's not right for the part.

"I say it all the time, but if it was to ever happen and if I was ever to get offered that role, that would be the will of a nation," he said. "That would be like, 'Wow, human beings are really powerful. They really made that happen, because Barbra Broccoli certainly didn't.'"

Broccoli is a producer on the franchise. And to name her specifically indicates that there have been discussions. It also sounds like Broccoli attempted to reject him gently, pointing at random things as the reason for why he won't get the part. And none of those reasons is that he's black.

Elba is currently sharing the screen in the Nelson Mandela movie "Long Road to Freedom" with "Skyfall" actress Naomi Harris. "They'll say, 'See! We can't put Moneypenny and Mandela in Bond. It would be like watching Mandela all over again," the actor said about the type of excuses he's been hearing.

Source: Yahoo!


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TheSkippySpartan writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 9:58:28 AM

Its a shame, Elba is an amazing actor.

I don't want them making the next Bond black for the sake of making him Black.

It should be who is the best suite for the role, if Elba is, then yes
BadChadB33 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:15:43 AM

As a fellow agent in the next Bond movie, I would like to see that.
CelluloidMan writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:24:26 AM

I call bullsh*t....

I can almost hear the "I'M JAMES BOND BITCH!!" lines from the internet...meh. f*ck that. First of all, the movie fans would not accept it...but crazier things have happened. Never thought I'd see a black president in my lifetime, for example.

Besides, how could they lose Craig? He's been box office gold!!

And also, doesn't Craig have something setup with Mendes already? An character arc in 2 films?
supaflywill writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:43:45 AM

they will prob make him a villan
synthetic1985 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:57:45 AM

they should make a whole new 'james bond' type film or 'shaft' but this guy can play a player better than 50 cent can look it
Stapes writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 11:26:56 AM

The will of a nation? Seriously dude, take your veiled accusations of racism and shove them up your ass.

Personally, I could care less if the next James Bond were black, but when you start playing the race card you lose any respectability in my opinion.
BJsforeveryone writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 11:27:39 AM

As long as P. Diddy stays far away from that role !!
But seriously...Bond is not a brotha from anoyher motha :)
Stapes writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 11:28:22 AM

Barb probably just didnt like the wrinkles on the back of his head.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 12:31:08 PM

Wow. Another black guy playing the race card to get something he doesn't deserve. Shocka!
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 12:32:19 PM

Well, there goes any and all respect I had for this guy. Why can't black people just keep their mouths shut, because every time they open them (Spike Lee, Obama, Jamie Foxx) they say something that makes white people like them even less. Idiot racists.
M. Bullitt writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 12:40:22 PM

Idris Elba was good in Luther (BBC production) but jumping into Bond's shoes that is something I really picture yet.

The will of a nation?

Er, let's just call it an overstatement.
M. Bullitt writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 12:40:48 PM

*I really can't
Curbcooler writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 12:49:51 PM

MINK:

Stop ll your damn stupid race-baiting and bitching! The number one person most people think of as a replacement for bond is "Idris Elba". What some people are saying is that the only thing that is stopping him is his lack skin. Idris Elba isn't even talking about racism you silly fool.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 12:53:02 PM

Basically he's saying that Barb is a racist, even though she's not, and that only a bunch of guilt-tripped white people can get him a role he doesn't deserve and one that's not appropriate for him.


Without a doubt the most disgusting, pathetic thing I have ever heard someone say in a long, long time.

Black people need to stop using guilty white people to get free goodies like a spoiled child, and they need to stop demanding we make concessions on characters and property that have always been white. They want a white Bond? They they can make their own damned spy movie with Idris Elba and put it on BET.

Bond is white. Always has been, always will be. When they let us cast Mark Wahlberg as Kunta Kinte, then maybe we'll talk.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 1:01:17 PM

Turdstooler must have been lurking on this article, waiting for me to say something. Pathetic.


No, you're right. He wasn't saying anything racist at all. He was just saying he was turned down for a role, like a million other actors in history, and instead of taking rejection like the man, the professional, he purports to be, he's whining on the internet like a bitch kid who didn't get everything on his Christmas list, trying to get millions of people to rush to his defense so he can get the role he wants.

Does any of that have anything to do with him being black and Bond and Company being white? Of course not! How could anyone thing such a thing! For shame!
Stapes writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 1:28:38 PM

"The number one person most people think of as a replacement for Bond is Idris Elba."

WTF? What planet you livin' on, Curbcooler?
Venom1970 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 1:50:19 PM

WHY? Bond is white, Elba your a great actor but mate your a n*gger! Keep your grimy black f*cking hands off everything.
Venom1970 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 1:51:08 PM

and P Diddy is a silly black c*nt.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 2:02:50 PM

^^Don't forget Kanye West!
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 2:03:30 PM

When I think Bond replacement, I think....Fassbender, and no one else.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 2:23:41 PM

Americas White Middle Class as the Eloi
as human cattle waiting to be eaten by the Other

by Lawrence Auster

What are the practical results of this pervasive nihilism on white, middle-class Americans? What does the human product of a nihilist culture look like? As white America has progressively lost its belief in God, in objective truth and morality, in law, in nationhood and in race, whites have acquired an increasingly bland, complacent, pacific aspect. This seems to be true not only in the United States but in the white West as a whole.

One is especially struck by this enervated quality in contemporary whites when observing them at their leisure, on Sundays, or on their innumerable vacations, or when they are shopping. In the all-white or predominantly white pockets of society, the environment is orderly and peaceful and aesthetically attractive, but something vital is missing. I have noticed it when strolling in downtown Chicago, or on Manhattans Upper East Side on a Sunday afternoon, or watching on tv the audience of a July 4th concert of Broadway show tunes (not traditional patriotic songs) held on Capital Hill in 1996.

Even the relatively refined whites (i.e. those who avoid the aggressively nihilistic grunge look of todays pop culture) have their own, passively nihilistic styledressed down, neat but nondescript. There is the predominance of t-shirts and shorts, the absence of clothing that conveys dignity or a large sense of self, the vaguely unisex fashions that deny the true scale of man and woman. Whites seem have lost the energy, confidence and leadership qualities that once created a civilization.

Absent is any sense of the long views and great plans, the intensity and faith that once bestrode a continent. There is no look of destiny, or even of character, in the faces of contemporary whites. Even the WASPy upper-class types on Manhattans Upper East Side, for all their supposed elitism, do not have the aspect of leaders of society, but of an enervated clique maintaining a residue of manners. It might be said that they have declined into a mere ethnic group; but even that would be an overstatement. What they are is simply consumers.

And in this peaceful, orderly, and insipid aspect of todays middle-class white people, they bear an eerie resemblance to the Eloi in H.G. Wellss The Time Machinethose pretty, passive, dimwitted creatures in the distant future who laze about peacefully in the sun waiting for the night to come, when each night the beastly Morlocks, coming up from their underground hiding places, seize and eat one of them. The graceful and attractive Eloi, whom Wellss protagonist at first believes to be the masters of this future world, turn out to be the mere sheep or cattle of the Morlocks.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 2:57:44 PM






























Anyway, I'm done. Let's get back to having fun because that's why we're here. Thanks.































































P.S. f*ck you, StreetCornerChiller.
Attos writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 3:42:06 PM

f*ck that, I disagree. I think he would make an excellent Bond. I can't possibly see how she thought otherwise.
Curbcooler writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 3:43:09 PM

MINK:

The only people I have primarily heard rooting for Idris Elba to be the next Jmaes Bond are whites you dumb f*ck!
And obviously I doubt white hollywood wants Idris Elba to be bond so that bond will become black. So many white people want "Elba" for bond Becuase they think he would play the character the best. And let's be honest, if Idris elba were white he would have already been cast post Daniel Craig.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 3:45:20 PM

if he's gonna black, it should be Eyedress Elba
no one else, he and I fight crime together and bang hot chics
in my mind

if not
get MINKOWSKI for Bond
that pic is absolutely dr-eeemy, HE-LOHH!

all you need is no shirt and a cat in your next pic and you can write your own ticket, girlfriend

that noise you just heard was Dustin giving himself a 'fastbender' after seeing that pic

i bet TAN will watch The Running Man NOW, i tell ya what.

maybe now we'll get some fish around here
cuz i got plenty of tartar sauce
Stapes writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 3:52:01 PM

Elba would look like a freak if he were white.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 3:54:04 PM

"Bond, MINK-Bond"
dun dundundundun-dun-dun-dun
dun dundundundun-dun-dun-dun, DUNDUN! in-my-pants!

'Putmans theme'
Farradin writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 4:05:05 PM

Spin off.

James Bond in all but name. Makes more sense than a Spiderman spin off.

Sony make that Money!!!
velocityknown writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 4:19:48 PM

Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom. Not road.
alleyg21 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 4:20:24 PM

Everyone... I just got finished watching the first season of House Of Cards...its a political thriller, a tv series and I must say it is AMAZING!!! I strongly recommend it you will not be disappointed!!! Kevin Spacey stars and it is just brilliant!!!
alleyg21 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 4:42:42 PM

@CurbCooler your a f*ckin wankaa...."the number one replacement for bond is elba" Get your head out of your ass and hop of Elbas d*ck...If bond was ever to go black, YES Elba is probably number one on the n*gger list...but BOND IS NOT A n*gger..and the only reason Elba is number one on the nig list is because hes the only good looking and somewhat talented british nig they have...therefore being the only choice they could go with if they wanted Bond to be black...but thats not happening for years to come...Craig is box office GOLD MONEY IN THE BANK hes not going anywhere anytime soon...and next on the list is Hardy or Fassbender...NOT A NIGLET...I know you wanna ride Elbas d*ck all night but hop off FAG and leave MInk Meista out of it AKA the names bond MINK BOND...HES STATING FACTS TARDLET...suckaniggad*ckorsomethin
mustardayonnaise writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 4:50:26 PM

I agree with Mink, at least in principle. Without delving into a historic treatise of race relations or some sort of sociological analysis, the fact of the matter is that the Bond character was written by Ian Fleming as white. He's white.

Idris Elba is a good (even great?) actor. That doesn't mean he's a shoe-in for the role of Bond. If that were the case, why not Maggie Smith? f*ckin' hell, she's an awesome actor, one of the best, and British to boot. Oh wait, she's female? And old? I CALL DISCRIMINATION!!!

pffft.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 4:59:33 PM

give it to Diddy mouth breather
payback for Andrew Garfield
BJsforeveryone writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 5:02:17 PM

Up Next : Mark Wahlberg will play President Obama in the biopic: Barack !!
Curbcooler writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 5:09:07 PM

I wonder if ALLEYG21 keeps the "white sheet"
Over his face while he is typing?

ALLEYg21:

Hey racist moron, I'm only pointing out facts. the person who has had the most buzz to replace Daniel Craig is easily "Idris Elba". My personal choices for bond would be either Tom Hardy or Idris elba, but lets face it there is zero buzz surround either hardy or fassbender for James Bond. While I easily understand "Hardy" I don't see "Fassbender" in the role at all, mainly Becuase its to safe and easy of typecasting.

Michael Fassbeneder already said in a interview if offred he would not take a role so commercial Becuase he prefers more distinctive, daring Artsy-roles (Shame, a dangerous method, 12 years a slave,etc).
So go and f*ck yourself you stupid aryan brotherhood wannabe d*ckface!
Attos writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 5:28:51 PM

I can't believe we're still at a point where people give a f*ck about "race".
"James Bond is a white guy" is a terrible excuse. Nick Fury was a "white" guy, too.
Who gives a damn is his skin reflects light differently? That's like being mad at him because he usually wears a red shirt, and Bond should only wear a white shirt. This kind of trivial bullsh*t always makes my head hurt. I hope society finally grows the f*ck up one day, but at this rate it doesn't look very likely.

As far as I'm concerned, Bond could be played by anyone of any race. Indian, Chinese, Japanese, African, it doesn't matter. The only thing that should matter whatsoever is if the actor can play the part well. Nothing else should factor into the equation.
Attos writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 5:33:17 PM

@mink
Lol, I do like Fassbender for the part, but the only problem I see with that is that his version of Magneto was already James Bond, but with a superpower.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 5:51:03 PM

"Hey racist moron, I'm only pointing out facts. the person who has had the most buzz to replace Daniel Craig is easily "Idris Elba". My personal choices for bond would be either Tom Hardy or Idris elba, but lets face it there is zero buzz surround either hardy or fassbender for James Bond. While I easily understand "Hardy" I don't see "Fassbender" in the role at all, mainly Becuase its to safe and easy of typecasting."



Any fool can do a Google search to see there's plenty of "buzz" around Fassbender, including Movieline, Celebrity Cafe and BBCAmerica. Just do a damned search.

In fact, the only people creating "buzz" for Idris Elba are guilt-tripped white people who think if they make a black guy Bond, that will somehow atone for the racism of people with the same shade of pink skin, people who died ages ago.

Same thing with Obama, who was, and still is, America's least qualified President, having done nothing more than act as a community organizer. Even his wife possesses no talent or skill worthy of First Lady, not even style or grace or charm, a woman who wrote one of the worst undergraduate theses ever known to modern man.

Regardless, white people voted for that guy in large part to say "look, I'm not racist, please, please, PLEASE forgive me for slavery although I and my ancestors had nothing to do with that crap", only to realize no one was keeping score.

Guilt. Guilt-tripped white people who have made it their redemptive religion to give black people whatever they want so they, white folks, can feel better about something with which they played no part, even though black people only ask for more and scream "racist" even louder in return.


Total bullsh*t.


But back to the issue at hand.

Bond is based on two white guys, not a black guy, and black people are always saying how they're different, separate, how their culture and our culture is somehow incompatible, how they see the world differently from us, how we can never experience reality because you and I are white, because we're not black.

They deliberately make themselves different and exclusional (while constantly dreaming of sex with white women, I might add). They put their selves on the outside. Now, when it suits them, when they decide to enjoy our culture, our creations, when there's money in it for them, they've got a different story, while also telling the world they invented rock and roll, the clothes dryer, the stop light, and that they are "the most talented people in the world".

Well, if you're so damned talented, create your own damned James Bond equivalent and stay the hell out of hours. Take all that raging, amazing talent and invent your own creations instead of waiting for whitey to do it for you.

Can't have it both ways, even if the guilt-tripped white people think a child can have anything it wants.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 5:52:45 PM

*ours.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:04:57 PM

I might also add that of the three, Hardy, Fassbender or Elba, only the second looks much like the Bond Ian Fleming originally depicted in his books, and has the height, the charm, the accent and the debonair attitude of a spy cad like James Bond.

Yeah, it's typecasting alright, but only because Fassbender LOOKS like a real-life bond, or the way Kim Kardashian LOOKS like back-alley ghetto hooker.

Some people are born for certain roles, and Fassbender was born to play Bond. Period. End of story.
Deaft0ne writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:07:30 PM

They already had a black James Bond movie, it was calles Black Dynamite and it was awesome.

Fassbender or Jonathan Rhys-Meyers for Bond next.
Deaft0ne writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:08:43 PM

called*
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:14:46 PM

*a.

But we'll probably get Elba instead because that's how it works.

Back in the early Oughties, after 9-11, the majority consensus was that the World Trade Center should be rebuilt bigger and better. That was what "most people" believed to be best direction, to not give in, to rebuild the original buildings, to tell the "terrorists" to "just go ahead and try that sh*t again", because that's what a determined, courageous people do: they rebuild bigger and better in the face of a determined adversary.

Instead we got some bullsh*t five-building ugly architectural freakshow that'll take thirty years to complete and still won't be as tall, sans spire, or as bold and thought-provoking as the original buildings.

Because that's how losers roll, I guess.

Giving in to Elba and making Bond black is just another stepping stone to apathy, to an attitude of "who cares?", because when you give up on your culture, your will to maintain that which you've labored hard to bring into the world, when you no longer care enough to protect your hard-won treasures from those who would erase, change or devalue them, then you're pretty much as good as dead already.

Just saying.
OneTime writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:29:30 PM

no one will watch this.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:37:33 PM

Rhys-Meyers is too short
he can barely pull off Dracula

MINK
from a selfie to a gerbil??
are you trying to send a message?
to Connecticut,perhaps ??
:-)
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:40:42 PM

yes
i know its not a gerbil
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:49:06 PM

@pornfly: lol!




http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/who-would-be-the-better-successor-to-daniel-craig-as-james-bond-henry-cavill-or-robert-pattinson

Read the comments, too. Seems many people think Fassbender would be perfect, so I'm not out in the wilderness with that idea.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:52:39 PM

Great comment from that page, and even hits Man of Steel for its political-correctness




This "Idris Elba" thing annoys me a bit.

First of all, I have nothing against Idris, neither do I believe that you cannot have strong black lead characters in movies or anything that people might try and read into this comment in order to re-enforce a point that doesn't exist.

However as far as I'm concerned the race of the character IS important. Not only important in the fact that the original character is described a certain way in the Bond novels (a description that almost every actor bar Daniel Craig has pretty much hit spot on), but also important in how a film is marketed and the messages that the movie send out.

First off both Felix Lieter and Moneypenny, two originally described white characters, have recently become black characters. Now whilst I enjoy both actors work and think they're both fine in the movies, I can't help but get the feeling of that casting being more of quota filling, decision by committee in order to market towards a wider audience with what was a predominately white character franchise. This is something that's happened recently with the possible change of Jimmy Olsen into a female role in the Man of Steel movie, a move that in no way 'needed' to happen unless of course there was only one strong female presence in the movie and this worried the producers.

So when I hear people calling for Idris, as great an actor as can be, I can't help but feel it's more lead by people wanting to rock the boat, prove a point and feel like they're scoring a victory for 'equality'. But that's completely against the point of equality. If we were supporting true and honest equality then that means that it shouldn't matter if Bond, Moneypenny, Lieter were all white or all black, you're neither gaining nor losing anything.

Secondly, to further my point about people wanting equality "point scoring" instead of actual equality, why is it that desperate that we change the race of the most famous and established white male character in film? A similar thing seems to be happening every-time anyone mentions a re-casting of The Doctor in Doctor Who (although this one would be far easier to do due to the established rules of that universe and more specifically that character, he could change into any race or gender). However if we want true equality, why not create an equally well written and equally strong new black character or film series? I agree that there aren't nearly enough strong lead black characters in movies nowadays (the same goes with strong lead female roles also), however I don't see any advantage in just replacing an existing famous white male character with a different race or gender, as that's just piggybacking on the success of a pre-defined white male role. I thought equality was about a fair and balanced range of strong characters based on fair representation of social and ethnic backgrounds, history, gender and sexual preference. When did taking away existing strong white male roles become a part of representing others?

Also, for the continuities sake, in Skyfall Bond gave a hint of a bi-sexual encounter. Now it was sort of tongue in cheek and I enjoyed the line and insinuation, but let's imagine a world where Bond was both gay and black. Now I have nothing against there being a strong gay and black character leading a movie, I'd happily pay money for a film that with this person as a main character, but that character would certainly not be James Bond. There is a strong 50 year history and continuity with this one character, his race, his social status and his sexuality, all of which would change the way he is perceived not only by the movie-going public, but by every character in his universe that encounters him and in turn the way he reacts to them. Why erase an existing, beloved character to create this new one? Why not create this new strong character and have the enjoyment of both of them being good representations of different walks of life?
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 6:59:36 PM

Depp used to be all artsy fartsy with his choice of roles
i bet if he was offered Speed now, he would make 7of them

give the Fassbender train some time to slow down a bit
and give him some twenty year old p*ssy and he'll change his tune
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:05:23 PM

"Michael Fassbeneder already said in a interview if offred he would not take a role so commercial"


Which is why he played a Bond-like character in a very commercial film, right? Right? Because you imply this very fact in your previous paragraph when you hinted at "typecasting". So that interview must have been made before X-Men First Class, correct?

Regardless, that's not what Fassbender said as of 2011, when he stated he was taking such a possibility one step at a time, trying not to look too far into the future.

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a353183/michael-fassbender-on-playing-james-bond-lets-see-what-happens.html
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:06:44 PM

"give him some twenty year old p*ssy and he'll change his tune"

Hell, if I got some twenty year-old p*ssy, my d*ck would be whistling "Mary Had a Little Lamb" all day.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:07:12 PM

Bond is only bi when the mission accidentally calls for it

he'd rather dabble in some pole play so he can live another day than die

Although, Im sure there is a Double Oh No He Didnt agent that handles ambiguously gay super villains
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:24:23 PM

velocityknown writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:31:43 PM

Against my better judgement, I'll dip my toe in these dangerous waters.

I don't think it's fair to say Elba thinks he deserves the role just because he's black. I think actors/directors/what have you are stuck with unfortunate quotes like this all the time. Some reporter asked him if he'd ever be interested in playing Bond, he said yes of course, they asked him about being the first black Bond and he said the above.

From Elba's perspective, hell yeah it'd be cool to be the first black James Bond. Who wouldn't if they were in his position? That being said, dude's a professional and I hardly think he thinks he's above auditioning for the role. Also, if he were cast, I wouldn't say that he hasn't paid his dues. He's got an impressive filmography so far and it would be a well earned success in his already successful career.

That being said, I too would love to see Fassbender take on the role. Only I think he's going to be to busy for the next forever years.
velocityknown writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:34:45 PM

Now someone like Jamie Foxx or P f*cking Diddy saying they want to play Bond is a case of a black actor (and with Diddy take that term with a grain of salt) wanting it just because they're black. The biggest thing Bond needs to be is British. He works for f*cking British intelligence. It's rare enough that American actors can capably pull off an English accent and I doubt the two out of the few that could are Jamie Foxx (who I do like) and P Diddy.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:48:21 PM

What's so terrible in the idea that Elba take on a new spymaster role, one like Bond, and perhaps even a little like Bourne, but one he can't just slip into because he made "a nation" feel bad about not giving him the role? Why can't he work hard for a role that's really not fit for him, or are we going to ignore all the work Ian put into fleshing out the character of Bond, a character that has remained largely true to itself for some fifty years?



@VelocityUnknown: "Dangerous waters"? lol. Come on, man, you must have bigger cojones than that...you act like someone's going to kill you in the comments section. :D
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:57:08 PM

@VelocityUnknown: I like the man too, but don't you think he's a little...lazy?

His role in The Losers was weak and ineffectual, his role in Prometheus was nearly non-existent, and much of his other craft work is equally nondescript and forgettable. Can't say I've ever seen the man really WORK for his pay, unlike Cruise, Bale or even Depp.

And because of that, I don't see him becoming a Hollywood staple, much less a legend, unlike Fassbender, who has the discipline and the willingness to seek out edgy roles.

Elba just plays it way, way too safe, and strikes me as a man who thinks he's entitled to fame instead of earning it.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:58:45 PM

...sorry. Known, not unknown. My bad.
minkowski writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 7:59:42 PM

"My bad"? Sheesh. I need a drink.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 8:32:38 PM

Im completey guessing but Im thinking the English Bond fans first started the Idris rumors
probably based on his show that I keep skipping over on Netflix
because, yea Elba hasnt done any really heavy roles on this side of the pond

*MINK said an English black guy was lazy*
*ugottaluvthisplace*
Deaft0ne writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 8:45:27 PM

@pornfly

Elba is great in Luther, one of the better detective shows I have seen in eons. As for his other roles he can be hit or miss but @mink, The Losers is a bad example because that was just an atrocious film overall.

Elba was the best aspect of Ghost Rider 2 and was solid on The Office and good in both Thor movies. Seeing him as a human in The Dark World was very interesting.

Also @pornfly, Dracula is sh*te but Rhys-Myers killed it on The Tudors and he is very charismatic and he could knock Bond out of the park imo.

Tom Cruise is 5'6" or whatever and his height has never been an issue for his myriad action films he has acted in.
Stuntastic writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 8:47:19 PM

If anyone could pull off being a suave, pipe-laying muthaf*cka, it could definitely be this guy. I was skeptical about Craig taking on Bond, but IMO he's been the best one in a good while
Donyae 420 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 8:57:12 PM

Velocityknown you are the only one making any good points. Reading some of the very f*cked up comments its refreshing to see there are a FEW people on this site that make any sense.
PORN-FLY writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 9:00:57 PM

Ive always wanted to see The Tudors, especially for the historical craziness that went on with that era

Maybe when i was in high school,DEAF when i was 5'2
but Im 5'9 now and i dont want no midget Bond walkin around like he's Tony Manero
Besides, Rhys-Meyers doesnt have the typical chiseled hard look in the face that a Bond would have

Rhys is another one thats lazy when it comes to his American roles
all i remember from him is that Elvis movie and the bald Travolta movie
i wouldnt mind him being in any one of those street racing movies that Hollywood plans on lettin loose all over our faces
Deaft0ne writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 9:08:36 PM

@pornfly

Yeah The Tudors is on NetFlix and it is a great and very well-written show and every episode is good.

I just feel like they should open the pool for white potential Bonds. Not only Fassbender or whoever. Craig was an unconventional choice but really fits the part.

I am 5'10" Royce Da Pornfly.
Tanman32123 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 9:52:54 PM

Damn darkie, Who does he think he is!

Porn- Eventually!
bandolero999 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:05:52 PM

I seen elba in prometheus,ghost rider 2,thor movies.and he sint sh*t to brag about

Elba aint no denzel.nor.is he smooth like him

He aint even on wesley level
bandolero999 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:08:59 PM

And deafc*nt the best thing about ghost rider 2.which still sux balls was ciaran hinds.you c*mchugger f*ck
Deaft0ne writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:23:28 PM

@rubberbandoloser

Hinds was okay but mostly phoned it in. As a Satan-In-A-Man character he did not hold a candle to Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate or Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects or even Gabriel Byrne in End of Days.

You can shut the f*ck up now little boy.
Stapes writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:42:42 PM

You all sound like a bunch of fags.
Donald Duck writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 10:56:01 PM

Yes, YES, that's it, FIGHT, ALL of you. Fight for my amusement!

Anyway... hey Hollywood, let's make a deal: you can cast your most recent overrated flavor-of-the-month Idris Elba and his oddly-shaped head as the traditionally white Bond... but only if, in exchange, you give us Kevin Costner as Shaft.

You know, anywhere else but here at this f*cked up web site, that cute lil mink would be at far more risk of someone killing him and taking his fur than of getting his head shoved up the strada-chocolata of a fat second-rate movie reviewer.
Tanman32123 writes:
on November 22nd, 2013 at 11:44:19 PM

nobody loves you stapes, Not even your mother
witwicky-potter writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 1:51:36 AM

Bond is white.Plain and simple.Its like a woman wanting to play Spider-Man.The character is male.It wouldn't be sexist to deny her that role for that reason.
Venom1970 writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 2:57:01 AM

Black people should stick to basketball and such sports, standing in urinals to wipe peoples hands, and cleaning shoes. Other than that totally unnecessary waste of space.
Curbcooler writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 7:30:50 AM

Venom & Mink:

Well happy to dissapointing thebody of you but both
Daniel Craig and Pirece Brosnan both have already
Said they want a Black bond. Daniel rain said his
Personal choice would be "Idris Elba" which is how
All the buzz started about a Balck bond "Mink", not
From black America! And Pirce Broanan wanted
"Colin Salmon"

But MINK I don't know where in the hell you get your bigoted "Idris feels he entitled to fame" nonsense from.
Everything "Idris Elba" has and all the respect and buzz
He has as a actor is thanks to his hard work and dedication
As a dramatic actor.
Bunny X writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 8:15:15 AM

Granted it's not as far from the Ian derived Bond as a black Bond would be, but this current Craig helmed Bond is different from the Bond mold of old. This so-called "Flemming's" Bond charming suave spy who can defeat 20 thugs with judo chops and still have his hair looking perfect. Not some Parkour jumping sledgehammer of a spy that Craig plays. They took the spy out of this Bond. Why? Because that's the world we are in today. But there lies the issue. When Flemming envisioned his Bond so many years ago, it was a world where the thought of blacks in any position let alone one of any considerable power was a farce. So of course not one of the roles could be played by a black. When he created it, it was also a time where women were nothing more than secretaries and splooge repositories. But as times changed and roles changed, so did views. In today's world a woman can come through the ranks to helm MI6 just as well as any man and I think Judy Dench was phenomenal as M. In today's world what is the use of laser watches and radio shoes? Half the worlds battles are fought in cyberspace so I loved the idea of a young tech nerd for the new Q. In today's world, not only can a woman rise to power but black women can also be in the field and become a Moneypenny. So in today's world, I'm sure there are black kids in orphanages that fit the profile and show the potential of a great MI6 agent like Bond.
It's all about the starting point. Flemings starting point for his vision of Bond was well over 50 years ago where the world was greatly different than it is today.
If Flemming were to come up with the idea of Bond today as though it never existed, it would be vastly different from the original.
Timing. Like when all those old movies and shows of the future depict clunky robots, CRT monitors, keyboards for data entry, and goofy outfits where the future more looks like hardware-less interfaces, humanoid robotics or more like the dystopian views we are coming up with today.
Hell, older views had us in flying cars and shooting laser guns by the year 2000.
So to me, the argument of Flemming didn't envision a black Bond is true but an outdated one. True he didn't but the time when he came up with it, there were no chances of him thinking anything else but. A white guy.
If we left things the way he initially created them, we'd still have a judo chopping, shoe phone talking, car boat piloting, spy with immovable hair.
Bunny X writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 8:24:59 AM

And n*gger......I'm so glad to see the bravery behind the keyboard that you have using that word so freely.
I wonder if that same bravery exists to the point where you can so freely say it in front of the starting defensive team for the Alabama Crimson Tide.
But that's the beauty of the internet I guess. Turns little bitches like you into self described Gods who stay indoors and hide behind your keyboards or when you do venture outside your mommies basement, you change personas faster than you change your Spider-Man underoos so nobody sees your true nature and beats you to within an inch of your pathetic pizza roll eating, mothers bra sniffing, one hit on your dating profile having, sticky keyboard owning life.
Bunny X writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 9:23:09 AM

The hinge that make Bond, Bond don't necessarily hold him to being white. Like that's why Captain America can't be black. A scrawny kid from the Bronx / Brooklyn in WWII era New York? Pretty sure back then was nowhere near as racial melded as it is today. Now if you rewrote the CA canon today and supplant WWII with Iraq war, then yeah you can make a black CA. But as long as it's the WWII CA, then he will and should forever be white.
Which is why I was fine with Kingpin being black. New York crime lord, heck he could've been anyone.
velocityknown writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 12:41:12 PM

@Mink

Yeah, Fassbender is like our generations Brando, I'll take him over Elba as Bond any day. Elba can seem to sleep through roles sometimes, but his performances in things like Luther and The Wire tell me that he's a very good actor who maybe doesn't get invested in some roles as much as others. Not entirely professional, but at least I know he has a passion for Bond and would bring his A game to the role. I wouldn't be upset to see him play Bond though I have people I'd rank above him. I'm sure there were people I would've ranked above Craig but he's done a damn good job so far in my opinion. I think the only other British black actor I could get on board with is Chiwetel Ejiofor.

The one thing I do hope for is that him (or anyone else) being black isn't keeping him from getting the part. Because, apparently Henry Cavill was being considered before Craig was cast. Sleepwalking Elba is an Oscar winner compared to Cavill at the top of his game. Definitely don't want them to cast Elba just because he's black, but I also hope he's not being dismissed because he's black.

Kind of like people who complained the new Doctor isn't black. Who gives a sh*t? We're not owed a black Doctor. We're not owed a black Bond. It'll happen when the right actor comes along. Maybe it's Elba, maybe it's someone else. I'm rambling now, but my point is

I would love to see Fassbender play Bond.
minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 1:59:26 PM

@Curbcooler: shut up already, because Craig said he wanted Robert Pattinson to play Bond. Enough with your incorrect crap.
minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 2:13:27 PM

"Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate or Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects or even Gabriel Byrne in End of Days."


Huh? Pacino and Byrne were the Devil incarnate, IIRC, but Spacey was just a brilliantly evil man. Nothing supernatural about him at all.

What the f*ck ever with that comment, Deaftone.




Just checked...yeah, no Satan in The Usual Suspects. The quote by Baudrillard was meant to be metaphorical, not literal.
minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 2:21:16 PM

@Velocityknown: thank you for your reply. Sorry I don't have the energy today to reply in kind, but I genuinely enjoyed what you had to say.
minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 2:24:42 PM

I also perhaps slightly over-reacted to Elba's comments, but I am getting very, very tired of hearing black performers cry racism, say they're the most talented people on the planet and whine and complain they aren't given everything they want or think they deserve.

Perhaps Elba wasn't speaking in that direction, but what he did say was, is more than a little reminiscent of other black actors who have bitched and complained that whites don't give in to their every demands, which is an attitude of which I am quickly tiring, not that I can much about it, legally anyway.
minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 2:25:47 PM

Kanye West's idiotic comment about being included in the "new Bible" and his total disrespect of Taylor Swift comes to mind, as well.
Curbcooler writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 3:56:56 PM

(SIGH)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2349925/Idris-Elba-Daniel-Craig-dropped-right-it.html

MINK do you wanna shut the f*ck up now before you
Make yourself sound even more stupid?!
minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 4:57:50 PM

(SIGH)
http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/01/23/robert-pattinson-james-bond-daniel-craig/

http://okmagazine.com/uncategorized/robert-pattinson-next-james-bond-daniel-craig-says-so/

http://www.sugarscape.com/main-topics/film-and-tv/813159/robert-pattinson-be-take-over-james-bond-role-after-daniel-craig

@TurdStooler: do you wanna shut the f*ck up now before you
make yourself sound even more black and/or stupid?!



minkowski writes:
on November 23rd, 2013 at 5:03:46 PM

lol, just for those reading this article, still, I did a Google search for "DANIEL CRAIG BOND IDRIS ELBA", and not one link contained Craig endorsing Elba. Nothing.

Yes, TheDailyMail.uk claims Craig endorsed him, but there's no quote whatsoever, just the empty, naked (like turdstooler before his daddy) remarks of that article's writer, and anyone with an ounce of brain matter KNOWS The Daily Mail is nothing but a British rumor rag-mag.

On the other hand, I've given you actual quotes from Craig himself endorsing Pattinson.





Care to try again, TurdStooler?

lol. f*cking idiot.
Venom1970 writes:
on November 25th, 2013 at 7:20:27 AM

Bunny if that comment was for me, I would gladly say such words to warranted black people. I said I like Idris Elba he is a great actor but he is in fact a N I G G E R, because he is. I am actually one person who is how he is on here and in person. I mainly state I think it is a white character, I dont give a flying f*ck what other people think.It is like making Santa a black guy, argh yuk. I do think black people are quite repulsive.
dwight writes:
on December 6th, 2013 at 6:01:41 PM

yeah minkowski I agree with your racist ass. Bond is white, and should stay that way.
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