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Connecticut Elementary School Massacre - Have Your Say

Posted: December 15th, 2012 by WorstPreviews.com Staff
Connecticut Elementary School Massacre - Have Your SaySubmit Comment
By now everyone knows that early Friday morning, a man brought weapons into an Elementary school in Newtown, CT, where he killed twenty children, ranging in ages from five to ten, in addition to several staff members and his own mother.

I live five miles from that school. Our roads are filled with police, barricades and news vans, and the town is still in complete shock. Going to local stores or just talking to people, you're bound to run into someone who either knows one of the victims or one of the witnesses. It's the type of tragedy that no one can begin to comprehend.

President Obama delivered an emotional speech, saddened by the loss of so many children and innocent people. Meanwhile, people all over the world have once again started debating America's gun laws in an attempt to prevent such a tragedy from happening in the future.

Nobody knows how to react and nobody knows how to help. Paramount Pictures cancelled its Pittsburgh "Jack Reacher" premiere, while Fox has replaced new episodes of "Family Guy," "American Dad" and "The Cleveland Show" with less-sensitive old episodes. That's as much as can be done at a time like this.

Attached are three blurry photos I took of all the news vans parked outside of the school at a nearby park. Since all roads leading to the school have been closed off, the media has been forced to go to the closest public area. The last photo is of Greta Van Susteren from Fox News doing her show.

I realize this is not movie news, but I'm sure that many of you have strong opinions on the topic.

Questions: Should American have stricter gun laws? Should assault weapons be banned? Is it better to home school kids? Should gun owners have to pass a mental test? Should all schools have metal detectors and possibly armed guards? Or was the shooter just a psycho who would have found a way to kill no matter what the laws are?

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TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 7:14:47 AM

People of America, listen to your President. He may not be perfect, but you elected him. You cannot expect him to change things for the better if you tie his hands.

He tries to give healthcare for all, and the big drug companies (and congress, some of whom have a vested financial interest) scare the public into thinking that somehow that is a bad thing, and that it would put a lot of small businesses in trouble, when in actual fact only the large corporations would lose a small percentage of profits.

He tries to regulate gun control for reasons that are continually and all too frequently known to Americans, and again the big arms companies manage to twist this into a bad thing under a guise of an American right that was written in a different time for different reasons.

No country is perfect, but from the outside it seems that only greed prevails over common sense.
Venom1970 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 7:15:02 AM

Its hit hard here in Australia, Can only feel for the families and people of that town.

I do believe you guys need to do something about gun laws.
N8R writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 7:56:56 AM

I don't think there's an easy answer to this and I especially think it's wrong to turn child victims into martyrs for stricter gun laws or any political agenda for that matter.

"Should Americans have stricter gun laws?"

I think that's a loaded question (no pun intended). Every total prohibition of anything has been unsuccessful, but we aren't talking about that necessarily. In some cases, yes they should, but at what cost and how strict? I think it shouldn't be a national issue or even a state issue. More of a city by city issue. For example, in big cities like New York, Chicago, LA, etc... they have a fairly decent police response time and lots of witnesses to be around. Out in the sticks (a.k.a. most of America), the police response time could be an hour or so. Criminals will get guns no matter what so if you live on a badass spread with no neighbors for miles and somebody rolls up on your property with foul intent... your best hope is to be better armed than they are. Sad but true, we CAN'T all just get along.

"Should assault weapons be banned?"

It doesn't matter. Folks still found a way when they were banned. Hell, you go to a gun show now in lots of states, and right next to the AR-13 you can buy is the conversion kit to make it full auto. So, it's an ineffective measure imo.

"Is it better to home school kids?"

I have 2 kids, 6 and 10. Both of them are well behaved on the top of their classes. I have met the parents of alot of their classmates and many other parents. So from my experience the answer to that question is "In most cases... HELL no!" There is an epidemic of idiot parents who really don't care about their kids education as much as they care about putting them to bed early so they can get their drunk on. Another sad but true fact.

"Should gun owners have to pass a mental test?"

Another tricky question that in time could easily be used as a tool for discrimination. I can't answer that one.

"Should all schools have metal detectors and possibly armed guards?"

I grew up in not so great neighborhood in Pittsburgh PA. When I was in 9th grade (1994), there was a gang related shooting at my school. Since it was gang related in the 90's and in a so-so district, it didn't make national news, it was in many ways expected. That didn't stop the parents from raising holy hell though. Within a week, every school in the district had metal detectors. They were a bitch to get through, they'd always find my cigarettes, they took more time, but I have to say, there were no more incidents with ANY weapons after that. However, I live in California now and schools here are built differently. Alot of them are open campuses with bungalow classrooms on fenced in property. Metal detectors or not, it would still be easier to get a weapon in there than it was/is where I went to school. So again, case by case basis.

There are people I see on Facebook recommending we arm the teachers. This is a terrible idea. Every day we read about irresponsible educators sleeping with their students and other stupid things. I had one PE teacher who was a TOTAL mental case. Long and short, kids feel like they are institutionalized enough. Brandishing firearms among that environment says less to the point of "we're here to protect you" and more to the point of "do what we say or else".

"Or was the shooter just a psycho who would have found a way to kill no matter what the laws are?"

Absolutely 100% yes. I don't even need to ellaborate on that one.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 7:58:54 AM

As I said it on yesterday's post, I am deeply saddened and horrified that children of that age are no longer with their parents and loved ones.


"Should American have stricter gun laws?

Of course. By now, you don't want another tragedy of this kind ever again. But I know how strong and powerful the NRA is and it will be extremely difficult to fight their lobbying. Also, the American culture is attached to their history and that I think it will be more challenging to overcome and even attempting to change the mentality of the American way of life.


"Should assault weapons be banned?"

Well YES, That goes without saying. Why do you need assault weapons in the first place? It's a military weapon so why selling it to civilians? But again, the politicians linked to the NRA will have their last word on it. Unfortunately.


"Or was the shooter just a psycho..."

Apparently, the killer was autistic and I wonder how did he manage to have two 9 mm guns and a Bushmaster. This is totally incomprehensible to me. Definitely a Much stricter law.

What is certain, something drastic has to be changed in order to prevent this kind of horrible tragedy. I know your 2nd amendment is precious to you but the life of a child is infinitely more precious than anything else.

Very sad day indeed.
Fightclub1 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:00:33 AM

This is such a tragedy. My heart goes out to the families of such a brutal act. That guy needs to be shoot or sent to a dark place where he will never see the light of day again.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:04:35 AM

Sometimes numbers speak for themselves:

Last year, hand guns killed 8 people in GB and...

10,728 in the US!
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:10:36 AM

"That guy needs to be shoot.."

Unfortunately, he killed himself. I mean he should have been locked up in a maximum prison facility for the rest of his life. 24 hours a day in a very tight cell with the hope that he might be seeing the light of day...
N8R writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:13:15 AM

And there were 170 deaths caused in Canada the same year. A larger country than either America or GB and similar gun laws to that od America.

As a proud American, I can honestly say that we are just dense with morons. No other way to explain it. Michael Moore tried to blame the news, but that's sketchy.

We just have alot of tools, you read their comments here all the time.
N8R writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:18:15 AM

The inscription on the Statue of Liberty reads:

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

When they really mean:

Give me your stupid, your morons,
Your huddled idiots, yearning to breath instead of you,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the brainless, tempered tost to me,
I lift my lamp beneath the golden shower.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:18:40 AM

No, 52 people died in Canada. Here's the pic for you:


http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2012/Dec/15/LiveLeak-dot-com-19d998dd427b-stop_handguns.png?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad2934843d3d5c876&ec_rate=300
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 9:34:39 AM

The person who wrote "West Germany" knows very little in Geography. Obviously.
bandolero999 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 9:36:37 AM

The psycho would of done it anyway.he knew he did wrong so he took his life.sad
trucvylucky852 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 9:48:06 AM

Instead of tearing up on national television. The president on his last term should have said We need without a doubt have a better way to track these guns. If true the shooter was mentally unstable, the person or persons who sold him these guns need to be held responsible. Unfortunately guns and drugs are being supported by our government, so nothing will ever happen.
cress writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:06:11 AM

It's f*cking ridiculous how easy it is to walk into a school, and wander about the halls. Most elementary schools have a sign on the front door "suggesting" to check in at the main office. Anyone coud walk in and molest, abduct, and, in this case, murder innocent kids. Doors should be locked with an armed officer at the main entrance. All
visitors must go through a checkpoint to enter school.
Sounds strict, but we live in a society with crazy f*cking
heathens.
And I'm firmly against home schooling. Don't put a childs
education in the hands of mommy, who might let little
Jimmy skip his math test because "Days of Our Lives" is
on. Home schooling is a perfect way for parents to keep their children tethered to them, within a stone's throw of
where they live, even when they become adults with kids of their own. Don't put a childs education in the hands of someone who might teach their child that man used to rideupon the backs of dinosaurs.
N8R writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:09:44 AM

@ McQueen

The link didn't work for me, but no matter, you're word is good enough. I stand corrected. I think I accidentally pulled a number from another year.

Regardless, the point is the same. Something different is happening there. I'm not gonna go on a limb and say how to fix the problem because I honestly don't know and I think hazarding a guess is kind of arrogant on my part.

The part that hits me hardest about this is that it was 11 days before Christmas. These kids went to school thinking about Santa and were all excited by what was under their tree.

Now, their poor parents are stuck with those gifts they already bought. That's and extra level of cruelty in my opinion.
Rambo writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:20:38 AM

Questions: Should American have stricter gun laws? Should assault weapons be banned? Is it better to home school kids? Should gun owners have to pass a mental test? Should all schools have metal detectors and possibly armed guards? Or was the shooter just a psycho who would have found a way to kill no matter what the laws are?

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
Nimz writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:23:31 AM

Well the United States has the most deaths per capita by handgun of any first world nation. So they should either have stricter laws, or just say it's every citizens right to kill any other citizen. Either stop getting upset when things like this happen or actually do something about it.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:31:38 AM

@N8R

Agreed, no words can express the loss of a child. I really hope those parents will find somehow the strength to overcome their grief.
Cinemaisdead writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:35:11 AM

I'll tell you what needs to happen. News vans need to stop glorifying these massacres and turning it in to a circus. Why do you think people attack schools and such, they know they'll get the most attention. Websites like this just fuel the flames and potential future psychopaths will want to be next in line to be famous.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:38:37 AM

When advertised like this, I'm baffled how easy it is to buy weapons!

"Last-Minute Gifts: Don't miss out on these great gifts"

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?ic=32_0&tab_value=all&search_query=rifle&search_constraint=4125&Find=Find&ss=false&


After this tragedy, I think the concept of "gift" has to be redefine...
English_Bloke82 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:53:54 AM

I'm sure most of the British posters will remember the Dunblane killings. That was enough for the UK government to introduce strict cartridge and guns laws. Lets hope something will be done.
velocityknown writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 10:55:46 AM

Major troll, WP.
BadChadB33 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:00:14 AM

Shows how sick of a society we have become.
OneTime writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:16:01 AM

the more this happens ...the more i love canada. keep it up usa.
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:32:31 AM

very very tragic news, i don't know how anyone could be that f*cking much of an awful person...
literally felt like crying, just think about it, some parent have lost their children that day, have to go home, look at all the presents under the tree, the gifts they wont be receiving, they'll have to either throw them out of take them back. There's Funeral costs, Christmas is completely ruined for those Families.

It's just such an awful thing to do, what type of sick monster would do that?
Osiris3eagle writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:34:03 AM

The answer to the last question is yes. Do criminals and psychopaths obey gun laws? Will they find a way around it? YES.
I want everyone here to google "3D Printer". Within a couple years, people will be able to print a f*ckING GUN WITH A 3D PRINTER! This isn't bullsh*t, look it up. The point being anyone who wants to avoid strict gun laws in the future can just make one in their home with a printer.

Tanman32123 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:34:41 AM

@ Mcqueen, I've seen that pic which you got the gun stat.

someone should post it here.
Phoenix Fire writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:45:39 AM

Domestic guns need to be hot pink with lilies painted on the handle and make that girly sound that "the artist formerly known as Prince" makes when fired.

Problem solved.
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:50:48 AM

The school needed a Kindergarten Cop.

I feel (as well) for the kids that survived. They're traumatized for life. They have no reason to ever trust again.

Anyone know if Lohan was visiting the school and was one of the adult victims (the odds are really long, but I'm hopeful).
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:52:26 AM

@Cinema - you don't think the shootist was so insane that a lack of news cameras would have kept this from happening? Please.
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:53:25 AM

And with this tragic news. I found it really difficult to masturbate this morning.

Not impossible... just difficult.
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:54:04 AM

I don't know if this is accurate. But I read a timeline on the events. And did it really take SWAT an HOUR to arrive on the scene?
cress writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:57:33 AM

@OneTime. Yes, because Canada is a perfect utopia full of wholesome people. Oh wait, aren't you home to two of the sickest f*cks I've ever heard of--the Ken and Barbie killers? Riiiight...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OoLLqYBdVQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 12:00:28 PM

@N8R - don't know where you get your 'facts' from. Bullit is correct. 52 deaths in Canada in the same year, not the 170 you quoted. But the size of Canada doesn't matter (2nd. largest country in the world... I thought I'd add before you got that wrong too), Canada has a VERY low population.

As for 'proud American' - you're either delusional or... no, you're just delusional. What are you proud of? Poor healthcare? $16++ trillion owed to China? The US dependance on so many other countries for it's survival? A failed educational system ('a lot' is two words, Jeopardy Finalist!).

As for 'tools' posting on here... any mirrors in your trailer? Any stones to cast?
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 12:01:17 PM

@cress - yep. Two sicks f*cks. And I think the girl is out (of prison) now. Ugh!
jeffw1978 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 12:04:59 PM

First off foreign piss ants when you regulated guns did that stop all violent crimes? NO. It didn't our 2nd amendment is to protect ourselves from a tyrannical d*ckhead like Obama
cress writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 12:09:28 PM

@Ranger. And she has spawned a couple of demon children since then. I bet she's tough to take to class reunions.
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 12:11:07 PM

Seriously... WHO would f*ck her? Seriously?!
cress writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 12:23:20 PM

Don't judge. I was lonely.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 1:42:40 PM

Take all the guns away and people will just knives, or rocks, or vans loaded with explosives, or cars, or axes or shovels.

The problem isn't the guns, people. America has always had a strong gun culture, but it's only been in the last 60 years, since America went arguably bat-sh*t insane, people started using them for massacres.

In fact, if you look at most of the crimes committed with hand guns, it's almost never a level-headed individual with a legal permit, especially the massacres. In the case of this Adam guy, he used his mother's gun.

Get back to putting crazy people where they belong: in institutions. Make mental evaluations mandatory if you have to, but the fact is, like it or not, the Supreme Court has ruled definitively: gun ownership, and not just just long guns, is a Constitutional right.
Ranger writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 1:45:51 PM

@cress - lololol.

And mink is right. Guns aren't the problem. People are the problem.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 1:50:45 PM

"People of America, listen to your President."


No, and he's not "my" president.

"He may not be perfect"

He's not even human.

"but you elected him"

I sure as f*ck didn't elect him.

"You cannot expect him to change things for the better if you tie his hands."

he's the president. How I can or anyone "tie his hands"?

"He tries to give healthcare for all"

He gives alright, by taking from one person and "giving" to another. By the way, my friend needs a television, so if you could leave your back door open, I'd appreciate it.

"and the big drug companies (and congress, some of whom have a vested financial interest) scare the public into thinking that somehow that is a bad thing"

Pretty sure no one is taking advice from the big drug companies. Pretty sure no has even heard a word from them on the matter. Have you? No, you haven't.

"and that it would put a lot of small businesses in trouble"

Small businesses have already started scaling back, citing Obamacare as the reason.

"when in actual fact only the large corporations would lose a small percentage of profits."

That makes no damned sense. Large corporations can far more easily absorb the hit from Obamacare than small businesses and if yo knew even one iota of economics you wouldn't say such a thing.

"He tries to regulate gun control for reasons that are continually and all too frequently known to Americans"


He hasn't tried to regulate firearms. He can't. It's Congress who passes the laws. That's why they're the legislative branch and he;s the executive. He FOLLOWS the laws, he doesn't make them. All he can do is try to get them to do his bidding.

By the way, what are these reasons?

"and again the big arms companies manage to twist this into a bad thing under a guise of an American right that was written in a different time for different reasons."

lol. The reason for early firearm ownership was defense of home and person. Has that somehow changed? No.

"No country is perfect"

Really? But certain people are always trying to build a utopia, right? The same people who want to strip everyone else of the right to self-defense.

"but from the outside it seems that only greed prevails over common sense."

It's called human nature. Deal with it, kid.

minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 1:53:40 PM

"Well the United States has the most deaths per capita by handgun of any first world nation."


We also have one of the highest, if not THE highest, per capita death by automobile rates.

Guess we should restrict cars then and force people to ride bikes and skateboards.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 1:56:52 PM

"I do believe you guys need to do something about gun laws."

Like what? Pass a law that says criminals and nuts like this Adam guy can't use forearms to commit their crimes?



Hey, gangbanging drugdealer, you have to use rock paper scissors to settle your turf wars now!
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:01:03 PM

"Should American have stricter gun laws?"

Aren't they strict enough? Haven't more crimes been committed as the laws tightened? Obviously that's NOT working.

"Should assault weapons be banned?"

Why? Most of the crimes are committed with handguns. Why use a semi to run down roadkill when you can use a Pinto just as well?

"Is it better to home school kids?"

No. Reform society. Reform schools.

"Should gun owners have to pass a mental test?"

Yes.

"Should all schools have metal detectors and possibly armed guards?"

Why not? America already incarcerates more people than any other nation, and we run our airports like prisons, so why not the schools too?

America. Land of the free, as long as you don't live there.

"Or was the shooter just a psycho who would have found a way to kill no matter what the laws are?"

Bingo!

McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:02:37 PM

Yes but unarmed people don't kill as much as people with guns.

And cars are not considered as weapons from Wall-Mart.
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:05:05 PM

You silly Americans.

All you ever do is blame the gun. The gun didn't kill these poor kids. The deranged f*cking sociopath killed these poor kids.

I'm in Canada and even though we can all say, "f*ck the USA, morons and gun toting psychos" this kind of sh*t could happen anywhere, all it takes is one f*cking moron to want to kill himself but go out in a blaze of fox news glory.

Here's a quote from Morgan Freeman about the shooting, a little too left brain thinking for me, but on point none the less.

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are ho
usehold names, but do you kn
ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:05:33 PM

By the way, a principal in a Memphis school was murdered last year with a knife. A knife. Not a gun, a knife.

http://www.wmctv.com/story/15243865/teacher-found-stabbed-to-death-inside-memphis-private-school
afterkwiss writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:07:03 PM

"Or was the shooter just a psycho who would have found a way to kill no matter what the laws are?"

That's for sure, but the bodycount might have been lower if he didn't have access to guns.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:07:21 PM

"Yes but unarmed people don't kill as much as people with guns."

Tell that to the victims of Timothy McVeigh or Mohammed Atta.

"And cars are not considered as weapons from Wall-Mart."

Nope. You can get a car for 300 bucks out of the newspaper or Craigslist.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:08:30 PM

"That's for sure, but the bodycount might have been lower if he didn't have access to guns."

Or it could have been higher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:09:19 PM

"I realize this is not movie news, but I'm sure that many of you have strong opinions on the topic."

In this case - no complains.

"Should gun owners have to pass a mental test?"

Yes, I'm don't know how they don't have to by now.

20 kids were killed by mentally unstable guy who somehow got his hands on SIG, Glock and AR-15.

And people ask if gun laws should be more strict? Well, common sense be f*cked.

minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:11:11 PM

The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–11 years of age attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the third-deadliest non-military massacre in U.S. history, behind 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing.

The bomber was school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe, 55, who died in a car bomb he set off after he drove up to the school as the crowd gathered to rescue survivors from the burning school.

On the morning of May 18, Kehoe murdered his wife by beating her to death, then set his farm buildings afire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many schoolchildren. Kehoe used a detonator to ignite dynamite and hundreds of pounds of pyrotol which he had secretly planted inside the school over the course of many months. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his fragmentation-filled vehicle with his Winchester rifle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During rescue efforts searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. Kehoe apparently had intended to blow up and destroy the whole school.
Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:13:33 PM

Still can't believe.
Little kids! Shot inside a f*cking school, and still there are second thoughts if gun laws must be stricter or gun owners must pass mental tests.

minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:15:03 PM

"And people ask if gun laws should be more strict? Well, common sense be f*cked."

The only way stricter laws could have helped here, Kurskij, is if his MOTHER had been banned from owning a gun! His mother, not HIM. He didn't go into the store and buy the weapons, he took them from someone legally allowed to own them. Someone with a permit. Someone who had already made all state and federal laws and regulations.

Another hint here is the fact that virtually all gangbanger, criminals, drugdealers, whatever, do not LEGALLY purchase their guns, they steal them from legal owners with permits.

It's not third year calculus, folks.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:17:02 PM

"Tell that to the victims of Timothy McVeigh or Mohammed Atta."

Well, even worse, how can you purchase explosive in the States so easily? Redundant question perhaps?

Even if I want it too, I haven't the foggiest idea how to look for it or how to come close to it even with internet since you're monitored?!
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:17:29 PM

*wanted to*

Sorry.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:18:34 PM

" Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours."

lol. Old leftwing Morgan Freeman. I had to go to ABCNEWS to see the guy's face, and I've been on FOXNEWS for days now.

Hell, ABCNEWS was one of the first to run his mug, and they've had it stuck up there for 18 hours going strong.

FOX news is too busy harping on Benghazi and Susan Rice.

Morgan Freeman. What a joke.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:22:55 PM

"Well, even worse, how can you purchase explosive in the States so easily? Redundant question perhaps?"


You don't BUY explosives, you MAKE THEM. You don't go out and buy a ton of TNT or dynamite, you go get ammonium nitrate and some other sh*t. Fertilizer.

Jesus. Hell, even the Zodiac once bragged about making bombs with nothing more exotic than common fertilizer and stove oil.


People want to kill, they'll find ways. Guns make it easier, quicker. Take them a way and they'll just hack you to death. Or blow you into past.

Whatever. I'd rather be shot.





Anyway. American society further implodes and people want to make the country more of a prison.

Looks like we're already living in the world of The Running Man.

McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:23:41 PM

Bottom line, your culture with guns is clearly NOT working! Your amendment from the 18th century needs seriously to be updated!

Live with your own bloody time, bloody hell! Just have a look at other countries, except Mexico, for God's sake!
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:28:31 PM

paste.

minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:28:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:31:15 PM

@Mink I find it it funny how in just arguing for arguements sake, you manage to contradict yourself...

'he's the president. How I can or anyone "tie his hands"?'

'It's Congress who passes the laws. That's why they're the legislative branch and he;s the executive. He FOLLOWS the laws, he doesn't make them. All he can do is try to get them to do his bidding.' - My point exactly

On the healthcare thing, you tell me how giving healthcare to everyone who needs it instead of just who can afford it, will hurt the economy? A vastly larger amount of products and services will be needed, which can only create jobs,and increase business. The only difference will be that the large companies won't get such huge markups from the government, but even that would be offset by the rise in volume. Simple economics.

You may think you are not listening to huge companies, but in a political system in which political power is 'bought' with money from these companies amongst others, you really are. And I am completely aware that Obama isn't excempt from this. That's just how it works, money buys power, and the money doesn't come for nothing.

On the guns issue, I am tired of this infantile EXCUSE that 'guns don't kill people, people do'. While perfectly true, it is also whoefully incomplete. People have done, and probably will always kill other people. That doesn't mean you should mass produce or make so readily available the means to do it so efficiently.

Just grow to f*ck up!




Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:35:28 PM

"The only way stricter laws could have helped here, Kurskij, is if his MOTHER had been banned from owning a gun! His mother, not HIM. He didn't go into the store and buy the weapons, he took them from someone legally allowed to own them."

I fully understand that, Mink. Well, maybe she shouldn't have been allowed to own them, as she had a mentally unstable family member with potential access to weapons?
"Democracy, everyone are equal" is all good, but in this case - it's a logical thing to do.

"Another hint here is the fact that virtually all gangbanger, criminals, drugdealers, whatever, do not LEGALLY purchase their guns, they steal them from legal owners with permits."

Happens everywhere, including Russia. I grew up in the 90's when shootouts and armored cars flying 20 metres in the air because they were blown with f*cking military-grade (just to be sure no one lives) explosives were not very unusual. You could buy a Tokarev pistol for $100-300 depending on condition. But no school or theatre massacres happened.

Why? Because criminals will always find ways to buy weapons. The problem is how hard is it to get them.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:38:05 PM

"Bottom line, your culture with guns is clearly NOT working!"

Because it's the guns doing the killing, and not the crazy people stealing the guns, right? So we should infringe our right to self-defense because we can't properly isolate and control the lunatics among us, right?

Thanks, but keep your eurofascist nanny state Eloi mentality over there where it belongs.

"Your amendment from the 18th century needs seriously to be updated!"

In other words, repealed. Well hell, since it's that easy to just cull a right from our founding doc*ments, maybe we can toss the one that forbids slavery too, because I really hate cutting my own grass and I'm sure everyone else feels the same way.

"Live with your own bloody time, bloody hell!"

And why don't you pray to your bullsh*t god over there in your nothing country and let us Americans handle our business the way we see fit? Mmmkay?

"Just have a look at other countries, except Mexico, for God's sake!"

Because what's good for Sweden is of course good for the US, but not conversely right?

Spare me your screaming arrogance.



Go away, superstitious little man.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:41:44 PM

"Why? Because criminals will always find ways to buy weapons. The problem is how hard is it to get them."

So again, I ask you, how would tightening the gun laws have kept Adam from doing what he did? He got them from his mother. The only way for him to have not got the guns was to prevent his mother, a legal, law-abiding citizen, from owning a weapon.

You, and everyone else, STILL haven't answered that question, and you can't. The only answer you have is to say his mother shouldn't have been allowed to own a gun either.

As long as guns exist, criminals will get them, and the ONLY way other countries have got around this face is by preventing CITIZENS from owning guns, yet we have, in America, Supreme Court right to guns.

So, AGAIN, I ask you, other than taking guns away from citizens, what's the answer for us Americans?
Dark8 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:41:44 PM

Its not the guns you idiots and its not the psychos its the f*cking u.s government that f*cks everyone up
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:43:59 PM

^^How profound.

Where's JB?
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:48:51 PM

"And why don't you pray to your bullsh*t god over there in your nothing country and let us Americans handle our business the way we see fit? Mmmkay?"

Mink, you're such an idiot when you to! Effortlessly may I had.

I repeat for your deaf ears and blind eyes:

Eight f*cking people died in the UK for a population of 63 million inhabitants.

Ten f*cking thousand and seven twenty eight people in the US by gun shots! US is three hundreds and thirty million inhabitants. Per capita, YOU are the champion of the world! No ONE comes close to you! Do you get it?

For f*ck's Sake, you and your imaginary f*cking Allah!
Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:49:49 PM

"So, AGAIN, I ask you, other than taking guns away from citizens, what's the answer for us Americans?"

So, I answer you: One family - one gun. No assault-class weapons. Guns should be kept in safes at all times when not used for cleaning or shooting intruders in the face. Once a year (or 2 years) gun owner must pass mental test.
Conditions in which guns are kept must be checked randomly and without notice by police officers.

It won't eliminate violence or shootings, but it will become much harder for criminal or loonies to get their hands on weapons.

A single shotgun or Glock is enough to protect your family. You don't need a .50 cal rifle or AK-47 to do that.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:52:16 PM

^^You can kill people just as easily with a 15 round handgun, Kurskij. You don't need a f*cking Uzi to do it, and in fact most American gun-related murders are committed with ordinary handguns, not assault weapons.

You're not even close.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:53:53 PM

"A single shotgun or Glock is enough to protect your family."

And a 15 round Glock is more than enough to gun down a crowd too, which again, I ask you, how do you keep this Glock out of the hands of crazy people and criminals without eliminating the right to bear any arms whatsoever? Only allow birdshot and shotguns?
velocityknown writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:55:03 PM

Seriously though, Alex. Great troll.
Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:55:35 PM

Oh, news tell me there was another incident in a hospital. Fortunately, no one was killed.

Naw, you're alright. Bear arms.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:55:58 PM

I am gonna ask one question,and if by chance someone beat me to it, I apologise...

Do you think if this sick f*ck had walked into that school with knives instead of guns, that as many children would have lost their lives?
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:59:18 PM

"Eight f*cking people died in the UK for a population of 63 million inhabitants."

From guns. Because they took them all away. Leaving the people to be murdered by other means, without the protection they deserve.

Anyway. The US has less than four times the murders than the UK, true, and Canada as well, per capita, but then how much of that is committed by minorities neither place has?

And do these minorities obey gun laws?
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 2:59:32 PM

And Mink and all the others Yankees:

Why the f*ck do you need a military weapon such as assault weapons???

This is soo f*cking beyond ALL of us in Europe!!! What the f*ck is wrong with you???

I heard Serbia and switzerland have legal control of firearms and yet they're not known to kill people with guns! so it's clearly about your mentality and attitude.

As children, you were given adults tools way too early.
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:01:51 PM

f*ck Mink,

Do you really have nothing better to do today?

minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:02:01 PM

"Do you think if this sick f*ck had walked into that school with knives instead of guns, that as many children would have lost their lives?"

Nah. He didn't even need the guns. A smart guy like him could have just used a box-cutter to commandeer a loaded school bus and drive it off a bridge. No gun needed.

Hell, it's what I would have done.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:02:28 PM

"Do you really have nothing better to do today?"

Do you, f*cking retard?
Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:02:40 PM

Mink, I wrote that it won't eliminate violence, did I?

Let me put it this way: it's about mentality. Currently it's as easy to get a gun as it's to buy a hamburger. You can keep it on your bookshelf, near you bed, up your ass if you feel like it. It's no big deal to own a gun.

That's wrong. A weapon is a weapon. When not used, it must be kept is safe. As I said, random checks of conditions in which weapons are kept must be implemented.

Yes, you can kill 15 people with a 15 round glock. You can kill 6 or 8 with a 12-gouge shotgun. If civil gun ownership is allowed, there will always be a possibility of incidents, but they will be much, much less likely with stricter gun laws and preventive measures.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:04:08 PM

"Why the f*ck do you need a military weapon such as assault weapons???"

Who said we did? If you recall, they banned assault weapons. And yet people were still getting murdered with guns at essentially the same rate.

Nice way to change the subject when you can't win the other way.
Kurskij writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:05:11 PM

I'll check the thread and reply later if there will be anything to reply to. Enough of that for today. Cheers.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:05:52 PM

I grew up in Belfast. When I was 11 I spent a summer in the US. I will always remember the other kids asking me if I had ever been shot or blown up. So ironic, seeing that it was probably more likely that they would get shot rather than me.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:08:28 PM

"Currently it's as easy to get a gun as it's to buy a hamburger."

That's totally false.

"As I said, random checks of conditions in which weapons are kept must be implemented."

Uh huh. Federal mandated inspection of homes for gun use to make sure the gun is locked away right? That's your answer? Invasion of homes and even more government invading people's privacy?

lol.


"but they will be much, much less likely with stricter gun laws and preventive measures."

Like I said, nothing would have kept this kid from killing except, EXCEPT, eliminating the weapon from the home. Period. You can bloviate all you want, it changes nothing. Keeping it in a safe only means he would have needed the combination, the key. Like he couldn't get that.

Sure, sure, less guns means less people can't own one, means less people don't have the right for self-defense. So they get killed other ways, or they are deprived of their property. Like I said, in the US, that's not a solution for such a nation. Think again.
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:10:41 PM

naa mqueen its because 70% of americans are total f*ckin retards!
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:12:35 PM

"Nice way to change the subject when you can't win the other way."

I didn't change the bloody subject and you know it. Forget your useless Wikipedia links, it's about your mentality with your bloody holy guns! Bloody Yankees and their small ambitions!

Get a grip Mink and for the love of "Allah" get Laid for f*ck's sake, my offer still stands, just give me your bloody IBAN account or ebay I don't care as long you have a smirk on your face in the next morning.

And Kurskij, I'm right with you my friend.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:13:50 PM

"I grew up in Belfast. When I was 11 I spent a summer in the US. I will always remember the other kids asking me if I had ever been shot or blown up. So ironic, seeing that it was probably more likely that they would get shot rather than me."

I'm glad it's hilarious you think it's "ironic" children were massacred because some child, who probably still believed in Santa Claus, asked you a naive question about your war-ravaged, potato-munching alcoholic country.

Not only are most of you people f*cking retards, you're sick f*cks.

"I'll check the thread and reply later if there will be anything to reply to. Enough of that for today. Cheers."

Good riddance. Take McQueer and his bullsh*t god with you.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:17:26 PM

@Blumpking

God bless the Queen and Canada!

LOLOLOL!
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:17:29 PM

Mink is a perfect stereotypical american!
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:17:33 PM

This website...I swear.

Hey Alex, stop with the incendiary articles and the big concept stories. These idiots are far, FAR too stupid to think. Give them more Lohan, more TMZ, more small-chunk fodder, more gossip and movies upon which they trade their idiotic sex jokes. Nothing larger than childish sensationalism.
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:19:50 PM

you are soooooo IGNORANT
Aaronupsidsium writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:20:55 PM

Repeal the 2nd Amendment
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:21:14 PM

Mink

Just forget my offer. Go f*ck yourself.

You're so f*cking above us.

f*cking prick. Just get the f*ck out and breath some fresh air with your assault rifle.

Idiot.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:21:20 PM

"Mink is a perfect stereotypical american!"

Yep.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:21:27 PM

@Mink I said Ironic, not hilarious, you sick f*ck.

You do like to twist people's words. Perhaps you should work for the corporate media to scare people into buying more guns, because that is the only why they are gonna be safe.

You are a f*cking joke mate.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:21:38 PM



After a man walked into a British elementary school in 1996 and killed 17 people, the British government summarily banned handguns. After yesterday’s massacre at Newtown, some in America would that Congress did the same here. The New Yorker’s Adam Gopnik wrote yesterday afternoon that “gun massacres, most often of children, happen with hideous regularity, and they happen with hideous regularity because guns are hideously and regularly available.” He concluded with a general call for something to be done and the execrable charge that those who oppose “gun control” were complicit in the crime. This, sadly, is a predictable response.

Arguments over the merits of gun control are made all the more difficult to navigate by the Left’s stubborn denial that we are already having a debate on the issue. Gun control propositions are by no means new, and nor is there a lack of a “national conversation on the subject.” Instead, the national conversation is ongoing, and the Left is losing it badly. Gun control advocates may talk of national soul searching and dialogue, but in truth that already exists; what they mean is that they’d like to win for a change.

The Gopniks of the world don’t tend to win, however, because their arguments are weak and because their thinking is shallow. It is quite literally unfathomable to almost every human being that a man could shoot his mother dead. It is perhaps doubly unfathomable that someone could shoot a group of little children. To have done both on the same day is nothing short of astonishing. Herein lies the essential problem for those who would radically change our constitutional order: Americans know that they could never do such things whether they had no guns or two hundred guns at their disposal. The mind of a man so ill or depraved that he is capable of an atrocity such as we saw at Newtown is not one that can be constrained by law. Nobody refrains from shooting up a school because it is illegal.

There are at least two hundred million privately owned guns in America, and Connecticut regulates access to them more strictly than most. To believe that yesterday’s crime could have been prevented, you have to presume either that a man willing to go to such grievous lengths could have been deterred from doing so by stronger laws, or that those stronger laws could rid America of privately available guns completely — thus making the killer’s task an impossible one. I believe neither thing. To pass a law is not to achieve its aims, and one suspects that any attempt at gun control in America — which outlaws and the deranged will naturally ignore — would be destined to be filed next to Prohibition and the War on Drugs in the annals of man’s folly.

American liberties, including the Second Amendment and the 40-plus state-level guarantees of the right to bear arms, pre-exist the federal government, and are defined and protected in the same doc*ment from which the state derives its authority and its structure. In a free republic, the people cannot be disarmed by the government, for they are it’s employers, and they did not give up their individual rights when they consented to its creation. There is no clause in our charters of liberty that allows for the people to be deprived of their freedom if and when a few individuals abuse theirs. Moreover, contrary to the rhetoric of many, America is not in the middle of a crime epidemic. As laws have been liberalized over the last forty years, crime has dropped significantly. The partial incorporation of the Second Amendment by the Supreme Court, along with the decline in public support for gun control and the passage of state-level concealed carry laws has done nothing to check this trend.

Contrarily, school shootings, such as the nauseating and heartbreaking spectacle we saw yesterday, are seemingly on the rise — as are other mass shootings, such as that which afflicted Aurora, Colo. earlier in the year. As Ezra Klein has observed, “of the 12 deadliest shootings in U.S. history, six have taken place since 2007.” This is a separate problem. What is causing this is not yet known and probably underinvestigated, but it is certainly not guns. The American republic stood for almost two hundred years before the first school shooting occurred. Something is awry, to be sure; to blame guns is a mistake.

It is often glibly asserted that mine is the “easy” response. On the contrary, it is the difficult response. To shout “do something” or “ban guns” is the facile suggestion, and nonchalantly to content oneself that laws passed in a faraway city will fix society’s problems is the comforting conviction. My judgment, by contrast, is the terrifying one: To realize that there is very little than one could have done to stop yesterday’s abomination is to understand that we are sometimes powerless in the face of evil, however much we shout about it.
Danger-Lips writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:23:48 PM

I guess it takes a massacre for people to start realizing Mink is completely f*cking insane
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:24:51 PM

"You do like to twist people's words."

I didn't twist your words, f*cker. I read intent in what you wrote and even quoted you.

Sounds like you enjoyed the fact kids died because one of them at some point in the past had the nerve to ask you about the IRA bombings.

And hell, I don't even believe your stupid story anyway. Damned kids were probably fifteen and f*cking with you like teenagers are wont to do.

But hey, you got your irony with your pointless and hateful anecdote. Enjoy it.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:25:52 PM

@McQueer: same to you little buddy and your silly tin god.

Have a nice day.
John1017 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:28:29 PM

watching CNN yesterday, commercial came on, first commercial was a promo for Kevin Bacon's The Following. Shooting Shooting Shooting, a culture of violence and sex questions why violence happens. I don't believe watching violent movies or playing violent video games make people kill other people, but in a society where people begin to believe their problems are solved with guns, violence becomes the only ignorant answer to fixable problems.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:30:07 PM

"This is soo f*cking beyond ALL of us in Europe!!! What the f*ck is wrong with you???"

Right. Europe. The place that invented mechanized, computerized genocide. The place that started two world wars, but now, with your little socialist paradise subsidized by sixty years of American military babysitting, you think you can dictate to us how WE should live?
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:36:57 PM

"@McQueer: same to you little buddy and your silly tin god.

Have a nice day."


LOLOLOLOLOL!!!


May my God keep you in a little tin.

I'm afraid He had already done that...

...And for the last 40 odd years,


LOLOLOL!
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:39:48 PM

@Mink You DID NOT get my intent, and only a sick minded bastard who is showing his true colors and vastly loosing any respect on this site, would read that into it.

My point was that the world's perception of my home at the time was a war-torn city where kids couldn't play safely on the streets. Not so, yes we had our troubles, yes some of it was bad, but at no point were parents afraid to send their kids to school. I find it IRONIC (and Mink, use a dictionary instead of Wikipedia, you retarded sh*t)that statistically the kids in our country are safer than in yours.

Nothing funny about it, and I never said otherwise. Now go f*ck yourself.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:40:23 PM

^Your god? Which one is that? The one that condones your sex before marriage, your hedonism, your arrogance, your narcissism? Your selfishness? You attention-seeking personality?

f*ck. If heaven is full of greedy freaks like you, send me to hell.
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:41:34 PM

Mink you are a prime example of what is wrong with America. Too many f*cking losers in their parents basement with a false sense of self-entitlement, who go crazy when they finally make it out in the real world, so go to walmart, get a gun and shoot as many people as they can. If you new how to go out and mabye exercise or get some fresh air or some social intraction there wouldnt be so many crazies in your obese, lazy and crazy f*ckin country.
Responding to alex's question,Homeschool is a bad idea in the states. All these stupid parents passing down their beliefs to there socially challenged children is exactly how you get these psychos shooting up classrooms or theares,or at the very least, how you get these losers like mink taking the perfect opportunity to spew his ignorant beliefs on us just like his mommy did to him instead of spending some money on an actually post secondary education.
And here in Canada Mink, I think we will take our chances on a distraught teen entering a school with a knife than a rifle hahaha.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:44:29 PM

"You DID NOT get my intent"

Sure I did. You were ruminating on the irony that some kid asked you about Belfast back when the IRA was blowing people up and the fact little children were massacred yesterday.

Why you'd even post a f*cking stupid anecdote like that in the shadow of a great tragedy, I have no f*cking clue, but good job, hi-jacking a tragedy to grind the memory of a petty grievance.

And by hilarious, I meant I found it hilarious, as in, not funny at all. It's called sarcasm, moron. Try using that dictionary yourself.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:46:06 PM

Mink, my poor sod,


I will NEVER trade my dear Europe with your US country. I promise to God my own and only God.

Please keep your Superpower for yourself. Nobody wants it.

We had many wars between ourselves and we have had learned the lessons alright, with or without your help it doesn't matter now. f*ck off Nato and Coca cola & Mac Donalds. We don't need you anymore. We've got our own nuke bomb.

What we really need to focus right now is the G. W. Bush & d*ck f*cking Chenney aftermath. Forget about us, we'll just be fine without you.

Just keep keep focus on your "gun control"! Your worse enemy before Afghanistan.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:48:02 PM

^^Whatever, McQueer. Just know that when JB starts in on you, I'm going to be there right along with him enjoying the fun.

lol.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:48:52 PM

"I promise to God my own and only God."

I doubt your money can hear your prayers, Bullit.
Danger-Lips writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:49:03 PM

You and JB are two peas in a pod Mink
Danger-Lips writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:49:36 PM

You two are exactly what America is turnin into
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:49:42 PM

haha and you will fit in right where you belong mink, in company with JB
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:50:24 PM

"We don't need you anymore. We've got our own nuke bomb."

France? Britain? lol. They're more likely to nuke themselves.

Hell, Israel is more of a serious geo-political contender for military bad ass than any soft-bellied Euro-p*ssy.
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:51:02 PM

ahahha great minds think alike danger!!!
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:52:06 PM

Mink, may you an JB live happily ever after.

There's your sarcasm.
Danger-Lips writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:53:16 PM

Minkowski... the expert on military bad asses, or the expert on getting a sore ass
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:53:59 PM

"we'll just be fine without you."

Riiiiight. You're doing quite well, I see. 75% tax rates in France, Spain and Greece descending into financial meltdown, invading hordes of people who would rather butcher you than say hello.

Nah. You're a dead stick. f*cked. The EU will collapse within ten years. Hell, I hear countries want out of it now.

Fifty years from now it'll be a Muslim wasteland. You're white, shrinking, secular, hung up on vacationing more than you work.

Yep. Europe. Rest in Pieces.
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 3:55:59 PM

The United States are in far worse shape than Europe hahahahahaha. Only a delusional american would beg to differ
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:00:14 PM

"Mink, may you an JB live happily ever after."

Maybe, but the dude is a HELL of a lot funnier and amusing than any of you, and the thing is, you f*ckers try to be amusing and yet say the shame sh*t every day, year after year.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:00:48 PM

...same...but it's a shame do doubt.
blumpkin4 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:03:38 PM

You are no different!!!!!!!
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:11:06 PM

Man, that Star Trek Into Darkness ten minute intro, the one floating throughout the internet, is really good.

I'd like to share it with you guys, but I guess you can find it yourself, since you seem to know everything already.
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:13:12 PM

"Do you, f*cking retard?"

....Good one, bud. Get a life.
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:13:56 PM

And I'll be the very first one to slice up the f*ckING MUSLIMS in my own territory without your consent while you'll be comfortable seated in your fat ass leather couch!

f*cking Islam c*nts are a minor problem to your own problems as we don't need your useless Nato now. Get back and save your nukes.

Next, it will be a civil war between Christian and f*cking Muslims, which you know sh*t about it, it will be a f*cking fairy tale from what happened in Yugoslavia which you Massively contributed, you f*cking c*nt of CIA!

Stop dreaming about your imaginary super power. You're in the USA but that mean you are given more freedom or luxury than I already have.
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:15:19 PM

"yet say the shame sh*t every day, year after year."

And YOU would know. Because you're here, every day, year after year.

#foreveralone.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:16:14 PM

"Good one, bud. Get a life."

Excellent retort, genius.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:18:03 PM

"And YOU would know. Because you're here, every day, year after year"

You were too until it became clear Ranger wouldn't suck up to you, leaving you to sulk back off to the shadows of your sh*tty theater life.

#foreverafailure
Dark8 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:18:57 PM

Stop messing with minky hese a nice fella
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:19:07 PM

lol
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:20:02 PM

http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/12/movies-star-trek-into-darkness-watch.html?showComment=1355571014439

Yeah like it is so f*cking hard to use Google.

We'll do fine without you Mink
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:24:50 PM

^^My goodness, you mastered the art of entering what you want into a small box and hitting enter. What modern convenience will you tackle next? The vending machine?
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:26:20 PM

@Bullit: whatever bud. You just keep bloviating. I'm sure that'll save your precious amusement park of a continent from extinction.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:27:14 PM

No thanks, keep your Hersheys and Snickers, but hey, a vending machine with handguns in it, wouldn't that be cool!
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:27:52 PM

I checked out the Star Trek 10 minute intro.

It really was pretty f*cking cool.

I was seriously not a fan of the first Abrams Star Trek but I'm not opposed to giving it another go.

Cool little clip.

f*ck yourselves.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:28:31 PM

So the Enterprise can underwater now, huh? Interesting. I guess they don't need transporters then.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:29:34 PM

"a vending machine with handguns in it, wouldn't that be cool!"

Only if it was located inside your remedial school and all the other kids had free quarters.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:33:53 PM

Eight minutes in, and Spock is already trying to get killed, even after the black chick macks on him for several shots. And why does the bridge look like the Apple Store? Jesus f*ck, and the lens flares.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:34:06 PM

"Only if it was located inside your remedial school and all the other kids had free quarters"

I have to admit I laughed at that, even if you are a sick, in-bred, stubborn bastard.


minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:35:44 PM

Laughable script. "He'd let you die!", with a close-up on Urban's face. It's like Falcon Crest in space or something. Basically the Twilight of space sh*t.
triggax writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:41:30 PM

Hmm, I'm interested to see what Benedict c*mberbatch has to do with the film, tbh.

There isn't a whole lot of interest coming from me for the new Star Trek. The bitch filming that little clip on the other hand. She was f*cking stoked.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:42:53 PM

Wow. What a cliffhanger. Does Spock die? And if so, then who will lead the Autobots? sh*t like that. And the shot of the screaming ensign chick looks like it could have been taken from Scream 3.

Jesus. I'm sure Star Trek 2 will appeal to someone, probably under the age of fifteen...
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:46:15 PM

"even if you are a sick, in-bred, stubborn bastard."

What the f*ck makes you think I'm stubborn?
McQueen writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:48:14 PM

"@Bullit: whatever bud. You just keep bloviating. I'm sure that'll save your precious amusement park of a continent from extinction."

Believe you me, I'll be the very first one to buy your assault weapon just to eradicate those God Damn f*cking Muslims out of my porch! And it will be bloody legal mate!

God save the Queen and f*ck the Muslims up! I'm IN!!!
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:50:44 PM

By the way, Alex, I know what you think you're doing. Good job, using me like a nuclear weapon, but just know this: I don't do anything I don't want to do.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 4:54:15 PM

Wow, Paramount are taking those previews down faster than Lohan's knickers. Must be planing an official online preview soon.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:00:04 PM

^^...because spoliertv used Youtube embedded video. Really stupid hosting pirated material on Youtube.
velocityknown writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:11:54 PM

Does Alex really care what anyone here has to say about this? No.

Did he just use a tragedy to increase user interaction and traffic on his movie news website? Looks like it!
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:24:25 PM

Ill forever be confused on why you guys even bother to have these long thought out conversations on a post suh as this one.

It's the same stupid sh*t over and over, someone voices their opinions on the subject at hand, Everyone disagrees, Names are said, Racism is thrown around along with some ill minded politics, And BOOM...

Youve got yourself a 100-200 Commebt Thread on a Friday night when in reality you guys should be hangin out with your children or better yet! Out at a pub drinking with your buddies.

Like I love all the guys and gals on this site but why do you guys put so much effort into your well thought out opinions? It's so hard to actually get someone on here to understand your opinion let alon agree for that matter..

And lastly, As for guns in America, I agree with Mink and Trig, It's not the Guns that are the problem, it's the people holding them. Don't get me wrong, Guns do awful things at times (Other then in the hand of the law at time) But this will never change, It's an awful Awful fact but this is just how it is...

I got home and kissed my little 9 year old brother on the head and told him I loved him when I got home, because I I ever lost him to some maniac I think I'd go insane... Then I layed back, Lit a cigar and said "So glad I live in Canada"

And it's true.. I'm so happy I was born here rather then America, Where you can get a f*cking handgun for free for opening a bank account...

End Rant, Sorry for the long post.
Shogo1307 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:39:22 PM

Hammers are tools correct? But can kill outright just like a gun. A knife is a tool as well right? But a knife can kill as well. By the way Hammers and Knives are weapons just like a gun. And they were used for over 2000 years to wage war and conquer. So by your logic then all weapons regardless of the intended purpose of them should be destroyed or removed. A gun is nothing but an advance tool used as a weapon. Again do not hate the tool, hate the person who misuses it. And yes i love my weapons, i love my shotgun as well as my bow and my slug gun and my muzzle loader. Im proficient in all of them and have used them many many times. The tool used is not the reflection of the user that is using it. If a person intends to do harm with any object then that tool becomes a reflection of that person. So by logic and reality if a person is crazy or disturbed then the tool they use in essence is crazy or disturbed. So if a person owns a gun and takes care of it and cleans it and uses it at the range and uses it in self-defense classes and tournaments is he wrong in doing so? Is this person crazy or disturbed and going to kill somebody? No one knows, its the person who makes the choice to use it in the wrong manner, the tool doesn't tell someone hey go out and shoot 30 people because i say so.
Crazyhorse writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:44:26 PM

TemporalFlux



You should educate yourself a little more about healthcare

The problem with healthcare costs is due to deadbeats who for years have walked into hospitals demanding care yet not paying for it nor ever even caring to pay for it

Then you add all the theft fraud that is committed in the billions of dollars each year

Also add waste spending

Finally Add all the lawyers suing for no reason and guess what you have a healthcare system that is having to raise costs that is passed onto to the honest person.


Do you really think healthcare for all is going to help LOL. Your sadly mistaken if you do

Fraud will still be committed; waste will still continue; lawsuits will also continue and your taxes will continue to go up because the government has never shown it can spend money wisely

Get ready to wait in long lines and the government telling you you are too old or have had one too many procedures to be considered worth the governments money to be spent on


Funny how the very wealthy and powerful from other countries come to America for their major healthcare issues because they know they will be getting the best most advance healthcare in the world thanks to Capitalist business practices not socialistic ones


The American Healthcare system suffers from lack of morals for right and wrong
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:54:03 PM

It has worked for the most part in every other country that has adopted it, what makes America so different?

Just the willingness to give up the greed, and actually try to make a difference, as far as I can see.

But you're right, I'm not an expert.
TemporalFlux writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 5:57:36 PM

And with respect, f*ck the very wealthy and powerful, from other countries or not. They are part of the problem
Rambo writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 6:23:45 PM

can someone please post a working link to the star trek into darkness intro?thanks.
DeVries writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 6:56:01 PM

I'm not American. The only thing I can say is that I just can't understand the relation between freedom and owning guns. I know your Constitution, I know own your country earned it's own freedom, but I just don't get it. I don't need no gun, shotgun, pistol, assault rifle or whatever to feel safe and free.
Rambo writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 6:56:05 PM

never mind.already downloaded it.
pretty much the same silliness like the first one...finished just before they transported Spock(duh!)at least there was some space visible in the last footage.
f*ck it,i'll watch it in cinema,Sci Fi is Sci Fi
Cinemaisdead writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:10:15 PM

Ranger- Maybe not this guy, but the next guy watching the news who doesn't think life's worth living any more and wants to get famous quickly. f*cking can't stand the news!
Champ1432 writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:39:32 PM

So much America-hating. I'm glad all of you haters live in countries that have never had a murder. Must be awesome.

Maybe we're not the best country in the world. Maybe our last president wasn't the best. (Maybe our current one isn't, either). Everyone has their share of problems. I'm still glad I live in this country. Every country has sick f*cks like the person that did this.

You don't like America? You disagree with our gun laws? Fine. You want to debate those things on this site? Fine. But leave your superior attitudes behind. Or perhaps it's just me being a typical, ignorant American. Sorry I'm not as serene and cerebral and "beyond" everything like those of you from other countries. I guess it should be easy for you to forgive me though, since you're all so advanced and much more cultured than I.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:48:18 PM

"I don't need no gun, shotgun, pistol, assault rifle or whatever to feel safe and free."

Probably because you live in country where everyone is just about equally poor.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:52:52 PM

"Sorry I'm not as serene and cerebral and "beyond" everything like those of you from other countries. I guess it should be easy for you to forgive me though, since you're all so advanced and much more cultured than I."

You're talking about McQueen. He lives in a country the size of a f*cking child's shoebox and thinks whatever rules fly there should equally apply here in a nation of 300+ million people and fifty states, the same nation that's pretty much subsidized his, and every other western European nation's defense the last six decades.

But hey, now that there's no nation strong enough to threaten the Europussies, they're okay. Don't need our help any more. lol. Yeah, and a teenager with a job at Burger King doesn't need their parent's allowance and car either. They're all grown up now. lol.
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 8:59:48 PM

"And with respect, f*ck the very wealthy and powerful, from other countries or not. They are part of the problem"

You're right. The people who work hard, stay in school, go to college for ten years to earn a degree that allows them make a quarter mil a year are just evil people right, because I mean, when you work yard in the given system and succeed, you should be punished by the losers, right?

Stupid. And I say that as someone who isn't wealthy, someone who never wanted to be wealthy.

Guess if you should win the lottery one day, TemporalFlux, we should just take all your winning away and give them to hobos and drug addicts, right?

Hos old are you???
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 9:01:52 PM

36???? Christ. Usually by that age a person has long since grown out of that eat the rich bullsh*t.

What, are you retarded or something?
minkowski writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 9:11:40 PM

@TemporalFlux: I have one question for you, so answer it honestly: by what right does the government, any government, have to take from one person and give to another?

In your own words, please, and answer the question directly, if you don't mind.
mrstretch writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:08:13 PM

So many people from different countries are suddenly experts on U.S. policies. lol ignorant retards
Preditorian writes:
on December 15th, 2012 at 11:53:36 PM

Keep hearing people angry that this guy had an "Assault Rifle" and that they should have been banned, but from the expression when viewing the AR-15 is that of terror from just that... looks. So if I take a rifle that is "OK" with these liberal f*cks that fires semi automatic with a five round mag to a 30 round mag on the exact same "hunting rifle" then that alone would make it such problem. These retards who say that guys are the problem due to their potential for mass damage really need a kick in the face, look at a shotgun, can do more damage with a semi auto shotgun than you can ever do with AR-15... f*cking liberals.
DriveMemento writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 12:37:34 AM

you guys really think if gun laws were more strict, if assualt weapons were banned, that it would have prevented this from happening???

like really??? Its the f*cking Psycho doing the shooting, 99 percent of the time the psycho shooter gets the gun ilegally. They would get the gun no matter what. Its the PERSON that does it. He would have done it regardless. He would have got the gun regardless.

I'm really just mind boggled how dumb people are sounding overseas.

and minkowski, honestly sometimes I'm not a fan of some of the comments you make to people and about some movies but today I couldn't agree with you more with everything your saying.
DriveMemento writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 12:43:50 AM

I'm all for concealed carry and maybe if more people were, someone could have stopped this f*ck from murdering so many innocent children.
slevin27 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 1:27:50 AM

Bottom line is, that innocent children were killed and the person that did it was a coward and took his own life. No matter where you live it's not ok for children to be killed. So to all of you people, living in the USA or not, making this tragedy about gun control or politics, f*ck you and jump up your own asses.

P.S. AMERICA f*ck YEAH!!!! Anybody who disagrees is a communist pig that suck donkey d*cks
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 3:18:38 AM

Amen!
Deaft0ne writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:13:31 AM

And from your lips you drew a Hallelujah.

And baby I have been here before I seen this room and I walked this floor. I used to live alone before I knew ya.

And I seen your flag on the marble arch and love is not a victory march, it's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah.
Deaft0ne writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:19:01 AM

Imagine all the people living life in peace.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 8:54:01 AM

Little late on this but I'll say my part and then try to read the thread. Sorry if I repeat anyone. Given the conservative trend on this website I can pretty much assume most of the regulars (especially one in particular) has run to the defense of the 2nd Amendment and has probably blamed no one but the shooter for this horrible act. Its the same response all the geniuses at FOXnews and conservative talk radio have given every time something like this happens. There is literally no situation that is offensive enough to get them to even consider an alternative to the current state of affairs. Common sense seems to take a back seat every time in the debate and everyone always seems to take their eyes off what's truly at stake. For me its pretty simple. I don't think the average public needs access to military grade weaponry. I don't think gun shows should be able to skirt background check laws. I think their should be magazine limitations and caliber restrictions. NY's gun laws should set the standard for national gun laws. Any company that produces a semi automatic weapon that can be converted to full auto should be subject to legal prosecution and loss of retail license.

I don't want anyone to take away my right to own a gun, but I have no problem being limited to certain types of guns and other weapons for purchase. That way if some nut decides to go on a shooting spree at least he can't have the killing power to wipe out as many people. I know that if someone puts their mind to it there's no stopping a rampage. I just don't want to aid it in any way. Religion, guns, and poverty are an extremely bad combination in a civilized society. Look around the world and its not hard to see the damage this mix creates. We look down on "war torn" third world countries like we're better than them, not realizing how much like them we've (the US) become. If we are to progress as a country and a civilization we need to do something about at least one piece of this pie. I don't see us getting any less religious or doing anything about the growing divide between rich and poor, so why not address our need for guns? It shouldn't take the murder of 20 1st graders, a theater full of Batman fans, or a black teenager walking home in a hoodie to have this discussion and form a solution.

It may be easy for some of you to say "sh*t happens" and just move on. Its just not that simple for me, especially when I hear a coroner say that every child ranging from ages 6-10 was shot MULTIPLE TIMES (some at close range). Sure that f*cker was crazy (you have to be to even consider something like that) but without the guns that just doesn't happen on this scale.

Of course, just like many of you, I have my reasons for feeling this way. In the long run though its just my opinion.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 9:27:19 AM

I see people siting examples of people being murdered in different ways other than by guns. That's fine but when you bring up a teacher being stabbed to death, we're still only talking about one or two people dying. When you talk about suicide bombers or the Timouthy Mcveigh's of the world your really talking about a very small segment of the population that knows how to build a bomb and properly set one off. You're ignoring the fact the literally ANYONE can use a gun and guns are way more prevalent than bombs. This ain't the Middle East where they're selling IEDs for Dummies manuals at every newspaper vendor in town. But there does happen to be a Guns and Ammo store on every corner here.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 9:27:50 AM

"citing"
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 1:35:46 PM

Good post Sac. I can agree with much of what you have said. Kinda to busy to go and quote, But you make a good point.
holtlt writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 1:59:00 PM

I don't see the point of discussing this issue. Why?

1.- Because its a f*cking MOVIE news site.
2.- Because eventually nobody will agree with each other...and that's exactly whats wrong with this country.

They call it the country with many united cultures and all that, but the truth is that there's always going to be denigration, no matter what.

I'm from Mexico, and I understand what it feels to have your country under fire internally, which is not even by terrorists but our own people.

I've lived in the USA for five years now and I graduated with a criminal justice bachelor's degree. It makes me sick the amount of deaths that have been caused by Americans who own guns and don't even know how to use one.

Most of the deaths in the USA caused by a gun are from guns obtained legally, which means their owners, who happen to be either psychos or retards, were just allowed to walk into a gun shop and buy a weapon with not even having a background check being done.

You can't expect to ban guns from the country, but at least you can have some control. The whole gun policies in the USA are just too loosen, prompting people to sometimes think of their freedom so extremely and do whatever the f*ck they want to.

I don't give a sh*t about who's the president, but if either Obama or Romney had gotten elected, they would've have the common sense to do some gun control, reduce crime and death rate.

Also, if gun control is tighten up, less guns would cross the border into Mexico. And if marijuana was made legally, less drugs would cross into the USA. If both of this things happen, your issues within the border will reduce.
DeVries writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 2:02:47 PM

Yeah sure Mink, Canada and many other occidental countries have equally poor people so nobody needs guns. What f*cking ever is that opinion, you sould keep it on your ass.
President Baltar writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 2:22:29 PM

In Norway, a country where you can't own a gun, a man managed to kill 77 people with an automatic rifle that he purchased off the internet, and a bomb that he had made himself out of fertilizer.
I think it's safe to say, that if a man wants to kill someone, or a lot of people, he'll find a way.

As Mink and a few others have already said, no one sold this psycho a gun, he stole it from his mom. Banning guns won't help, as they'll still be in circulation, or available on the internet.
sherv writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 3:48:41 PM

I clearly remember the Dunblane shootings here in Scotland which isn't too far from where i stay, that sick fuk killed 16 nursery kids, the atmosphere at the time, walking about the supermarket etc was really weird,everyone walking about with their heads down. My prays go out to their family's.
Blood_Ice-Cream writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 3:51:34 PM

Mink... Go kill yourself. You useless piece of sh*t. Seriously, no-one will miss you and your narcissistic posts. And if you hate this website, and the people that post on it so much, why the f*ck do you keep coming back? Just because daddy f*cked you everyday of your childhood, doesn't mean you have to come here and be a miserable f*ck.
DeVries writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:02:57 PM

@Blood_Ice_Cream : Amen.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:18:31 PM

@SAC & holtlt

Very nice post. It's nice to see that there a few sensible and reasonable Americans out there.

@sherv

My prayers are also with their families.


And Mink

When I joined this site, you were the slayer against the trolls and now you're saying what a child from 4th grade wold say: I'm siding with JB! I laughed so much at your comment. And saying JB is a lot funnier than any of us that is simply pathetic.

And you say i live in "a f*cking child's shoebox country", really? Again with your stupid arrogance and your condescending tone. I always lived in a big city capital and I wanted on purpose to come and live here for their standard of living and to get away from the constant stress of a capital. And the housing doesn't come cheap here at €5,000.00 the square meter so telling me this while you live in a flat you better get your facts right.

Anyway, all of this started because I have a different opinion from you and of course you're Always right and everybody else is wrong and against you. Also twisting my words and from other ones is definitely a sign of weakness. Be fair, don't put words into my mouth.

And boasting that the US is the superpower, which everybody knows and it's useless to remind me that, you're talking like YOU are the master chief in command ready to press the red button if I or we disagree with you.

Grow up will you?

sedibus writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:35:23 PM

Crazy and sad plastic things going on.

If I'm able to say something whether is stupid or not, or only a fantasy reply about this facts.

Then I must say that instead of going to kill really innocent people they should go and kill those are doing bad things to others, dangerous people.

And by that means, I believe that this clowns should get their sh*t together.

Man, believing he's the joker, why not the f*cking Punisher you weak piece of dumbass sh*t.

I you have the f*cking balls to kill why not against those that will we you a direct response, you f*cking lame-ass mother f*cking piece of sh*t idiot.

Really, sad, the worst f*cking things.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:40:01 PM

"Imagine all the people living life in peace."

You don't have to imagine. Just visit a cemetery.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:47:48 PM

@sac: all that blathering, and yet you once again forget the obvious. Dude got his guns from his mother. She was legally entitled to own them. Even if you got rid of all these guns and ammo stores, she would have still had the damned gun because she's legally entitled to own one. Jesus Christ. Hell, do ANY of you remember when you could buy guns through the f*cking MAIL? Like mail order? Didn't have this sh*t going on then, did we?

Like I said, most of you guys are just dumb. You talk and talk and talk but you always miss the most obvious sh*t because you're too busy pushing some mindless ideological agenda, a religion, like good old Sac who waits till I'm out the room to bloviate, sh*t someone else told you, instead of dealing with your own internal logic and rationality. Which is why nine times out ten, you'll always be wrong, at least on the face of the facts.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 4:55:58 PM

"So many people from different countries are suddenly experts on U.S. policies. lol ignorant retards"

Yep. Like McQueer and that c*ckroach DeVries guy with lips around Ranger's c*ck. They don't live here, never even been into the country but they seem to think they know all about our culture, society, and history.

Durrrrr. Like I said, you could once send off for guns in the f*cking mail, and yet people weren't gunning down kids in schools, and in fact, most of the worst high school shootings have occurred since 2006 - 2007. Odd huh, but those damned obvious simple facts be damned, because if some coward like Sac is afraid of a gun, then by god, we need to get rid of them.

Interesting note: this gun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine

Was once sold in hardware stores next to hammers, circa 1966, until Charles Whitman went on his rampage. Strange then Whitman was a rare character, one of a very few to commit such a crime in the two decades prior to 1966, right?

Must have been the damned guns, I guess. Right, geniuses, oh masters of common sense and logic?
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:07:50 PM

Go buy your precious gun and kill yourself Minky.

Keep Arguing with yourself, it's very entertaining.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:12:51 PM

To argue would be to assume there's an argument to begin with, and that ain't happening with you brainiacs.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:16:37 PM

Calling me McQueer is very funny but not very insulting enough. You do know it's not my name but a pseudo I borrowed from you know who.

Me brainiacs? Whatever floats your boat Minky.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:17:52 PM

I don't care what your name is.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:24:46 PM

You know my name alright.

Call me McQueer again, it's very amusing.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:25:45 PM

I didn't say I don't know, I said I don't care.

Can you read?
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:27:47 PM

Can't we all just get along!

Why does everyone try to argue and discuss a touchy subject like this? Just shut your mouths and pray it never happens again. Period.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:33:42 PM

Why should we get along? Who the hell are you to me? No one. You're not my neighbor, my friend, my brother, sister, uncle. You're not even the black guy picking up my trash. Just some loudmouthed ignorant Youtuber who never reads a damned thing other than Twilight, comic books and Fifty Shades of Grey but somehow believes you have the right to have your opinion taken seriously, and by "your" I mean someone else's opinion you stole because you don't have the mind or courage to think for yourself.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:34:56 PM

Nobody gets along with Minky. He's alone and proud to be. No wonder no woman comes ever near him.

Poor bastard.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:38:04 PM

See Tanman, he just proved it to you. He hates everyone and the only thing he loves endlessly it's his computer which he's glued 24/7.

Must be sad to have no friends including the virtual ones.

I'm going to bed now Minky so have fun with yourself.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:38:59 PM

Your woman would come around me, for starters, Bullit if I offered her more money than you.
Champ1432 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:42:23 PM

@Tanman

I certainly agree with that, I think we all hope nothing like this ever happens again, even at the same time realizing the unfortunate truth that it probably will regardless of the level of gun restriction, because there's always another psycho running around.

I'm not really saying anything about gun laws, there are good points on both sides honestly, but I'm just a little tired of the USA-bashing, that's all. Yeah, there are things we need to improve here. Same as every other country in the world. Including every single one represented here on WP.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:45:25 PM

Except Europe. It's perfect. Just ignore those holocausts hiding in the corner, of course.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:46:30 PM

No Minky, she wouldn't. Simply because when I met her I was earning an average salary. And it was just love at the first sight. When I got a much better contract life got much of course but our relationship was Never based on money.

Nice try.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:49:26 PM

*at first sight* and *much better*


Sorry.

minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:54:01 PM

"Just shut your mouths and pray it never happens again."

So no talky amongst our selves but instead pray to an imaginary skygod? That's about as stupid as Kurskij's suggestion of forced home inspections, but I guess that's what they do over there in the Evil Empire.


@Bullit: lol, yeah right bud. You're a f*cking hoot. Lose your money and see where the whore, I'm sorry, "girlfriend", goes.

And let me tell you something, most divorces are instigated by the woman, not the man, and most divorces are because of money. Fact.

Go ahead, lose the cash. Go broke. Go work at whatever fast food sh*thole you guys have over there in Eurotrashville. See how fast you're back to beating your d*ck to Redtube, which is also interesting, considering how much you talk about sex. You'd think you'd get it enough you wouldn't have to spam a movie site with stupid images of naked women like a 14 year old nerd, and yet you do.

Sad.
McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:54:04 PM

@Champ

I'm not bashing your country. A much stricter gun control would prevent tragedies. That's all I was saying.

And no one has explained to me why do you have assault weapons for sail? What's the need of a military weapon? Rabbit-hunting?

We manage just fine without the guns in Europe so it's very difficult for us to comprehend the gun culture. Again, unarmed people don't kill.
Master Thought writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:58:43 PM

What as stupid thread to provoke on a MOVIE website. I really don't care what any of these f*cks have to say about the CT shooting, gun control, health care, or Prez Obama's current policies.

This is bullsh*t, Alex.

McQueen writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 5:59:58 PM

Minky, you're an imbecile.

I'll never forgive you for insulting my lady. You can insult me as much as you want but my woman was the one too much.

This is very low and f*cking stupid coming from a man who claim to have a superior intelligence. f*cking gipsy!
Champ1432 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 6:01:22 PM

@McQueen

Just a different culture, don't know how to explain it. I don't think it makes us somehow worse or less enlightened, however. Not that I was directing everything at you, there was plenty of America hate on here.

Do I think a regular person should own an assault rifle? No. Would stricter gun laws prevent tragedies? No. They might reduce them, they might change their scope, and I'm not saying there's no value in that. But it would not outright prevent tragedies. As has been discussed on here to great extent already, if some psycho wants to kill, he'll find a way.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 6:36:13 PM

@Bullit: lol. Go f*ck yourself. You probably don't even have a woman. You're a pathological liar anyway. Coming on here telling people your entire life story. Look at me, I'm Bullit, this is what I drive, who I date. Here's my name, my country of residence. You talk about me not having friends but you spend hours and hours of your day desperately trying to befriend strangers on a f*cking two-bit, fourth-tier movie site, bragging about your pathetic life.

Hell, you don't even like movies unless it's James Bond or has some old dead naked whore form the 1960s.

You remind me of someone else on here, which doesn't surprise me the least.

As for your supposed woman, meh. Get over it old man.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 6:45:30 PM

"A much stricter gun control would prevent tragedies. That's all I was saying."

No, you were saying how much better Europe is to America, as usual, but like Velocity, you cowardly backtrack to cover your ass.

Anyway, how much stricter would you like it, and how would that have affected what happened here? Dude got his gun from his MOTHER. How would have tightening gun sales affected THIS situation? Answer the question!

"And no one has explained to me why do you have assault weapons for sail?"

Sale.


"What's the need of a military weapon? Rabbit-hunting?"

What's the point of you Europeans having huge f*cking huge boats? Can't you sail the f*cking seas with a simple yacht? Why do you drive a f*cking sports cars? Why isn't a Yugo good enough for you? Why do you date a Page 3 model, or so you claim? Why isn't an average woman good enough?

Dumb ass.



"We manage just fine without the guns in Europe"

For now. Wait till the Islamists get tired of your sick white dead Christian culture. You'll wish you had them then.


"so it's very difficult for us to comprehend the gun culture."

Yeah, well, it's difficult for most Americans to understand why Europeans don't breed and think they can vacation half the year too. Different culture, for sure. One's a dead stick, the other going your way.

"Again, unarmed people don't kill."

lol! I won't even comment on such an asinine statement.

slevin27 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:05:26 PM

Too bad the coward offed himself, would have been great if he got sent to prison and got tortured for the rest of his pathetic life, that or they could've got someone to shove bamboo reeds under his finger and toe nails, or put a sack over his head with a rabid rat or two in there, water board him, ya know something to make him suffer for a long time. That's just my opinion.
Ranger writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:16:15 PM

@slevin - you'd want to see your tax $'s spent housing him in protective custody until he naturally expires? You wouldn't rather see those same $'s put towards the debt, education, filling pot-holes on the roadways?

Yeah... house a c*nt like that for 50 years. Great suggestion. The ONLY thing the shootist did right WAS to off himself. He saved you some $'s. Be grateful.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:25:24 PM

He should have shot Obama instead.
bane writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:43:43 PM

Obama might as well piss on the victims graves

the way he gets his picture taken
after innocent people get murdered

take away the guns full stop
that will stop the shootings i hope

only cops should have guns

minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:48:03 PM

Right. Because the cops have never blown away innocent people, right?
bane writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:51:50 PM

@ minkowski

He should have shot Obama instead

jesus man !!!!!
what a thing to say

bane writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 7:55:24 PM

@ mink

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/Ii/obama-christmas-poo-122308-lg.jpg
bane writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 8:01:41 PM

Obama pulled this exact same sh*t
after the TDKR shooting remember ??

oh look at the president !!!

he went all the waayyy to visit
the victims family because he ''cares''

if he really cared..
he wouldn't be using them to make
himself look good
DeVries writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 8:07:09 PM

f*cking c*ckbag piece of sh*t Mink, you think you know me, or people here, or anything ? Dumbf*ck I hope you get shot in the face, you'll go get your assault rifle after to defend yourself in the land of the f*ck.
bane writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 8:14:25 PM

@ DeVries

nobody is gonna shoot mink

that don't want to waste a bullet
bane writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 8:48:12 PM

people should read this

http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/will-the-connecticut-school-shooting-hurt-django-unchained
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 9:15:49 PM

@Devries: I too hope someone shoots me dead just so I don't have to read your posts.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 9:34:29 PM

I know you people read about as often as fish smoke cigarettes but here's one for ya':



The Facts About Mass Shootings

A few things you won’t hear about from the saturation coverage of the Newtown, Conn., school massacre:

Mass shootings are no more common than they have been in past decades, despite the impression given by the media.

In fact, the high point for mass killings in the U.S. was 1929, according to criminologist Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections.

Incidents of mass murder in the U.S. declined from 42 in the 1990s to 26 in the first decade of this century.

The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning.

Until the Newtown horror, the three worst K–12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany.

Almost all of the public-policy discussion about Newtown has focused on a debate over the need for more gun control. In reality, gun control in a country that already has 200 million privately owned firearms is likely to do little to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals. We would be better off debating two taboo subjects — the laws that make it difficult to control people with mental illness and the growing body of evidence that “gun-free” zones, which ban the carrying of firearms by law-abiding individuals, don’t work.

First, the mental-health issue. A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.” New York Times columnist David Brooks and Cornell Law School professor William Jacobsen have both suggested that the ACLU-inspired laws that make it so difficult to intervene and identify potentially dangerous people should be loosened. “Will we address mental-health and educational-privacy laws, which instill fear of legal liability for reporting potentially violent mentally ill people to law enforcement?” asks Professor Jacobsen. “I doubt it.”

Gun-free zones have been the most popular response to previous mass killings. But many law-enforcement officials say they are actually counterproductive. “Guns are already banned in schools. That is why the shootings happen in schools. A school is a ‘helpless-victim zone,’” says Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff. “Preventing any adult at a school from having access to a firearm eliminates any chance the killer can be stopped in time to prevent a rampage,” Jim Kouri, the public-information officer of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, told me earlier this year at the time of the Aurora, Colo., Batman-movie shooting. Indeed, there have been many instances — from the high-school shooting by Luke Woodham in Mississippi, to the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, Colo. — where a killer has been stopped after someone got a gun from a parked car or elsewhere and confronted the shooter.

Economists John Lott and William Landes conducted a groundbreaking study in 1999, and found that a common theme of mass shootings is that they occur in places where guns are banned and killers know everyone will be unarmed, such as shopping malls and schools.

I spoke with Lott after the Newtown shooting, and he confirmed that nothing has changed to alter his findings. He noted that the Aurora shooter, who killed twelve people earlier this year, had a choice of seven movie theaters that were showing the Batman movie he was obsessed with. All were within a 20-minute drive of his home. The Cinemark Theater the killer ultimately chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals. All of the other theaters allowed the approximately 4 percent of Colorado adults who have a concealed-handgun permit to enter with their weapons.

“Disarming law-abiding citizens leaves them as sitting ducks,” Lott told me. “A couple hundred people were in the Cinemark Theater when the killer arrived. There is an extremely high probability that one or more of them would have had a legal concealed handgun with him if they had not been banned.”

Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

There is no evidence that private holders of concealed-carry permits (which are either easy to obtain or not even required in more than 40 states) are any more irresponsible with firearms than the police. According to a 2005 to 2007 study by researchers at the University of Wisconsin and Bowling Green State University, police nationwide were convicted of firearms violations at least at a 0.002 percent annual rate. That’s about the same rate as holders of carry permits in the states with “shall issue” laws.

Despite all of this evidence, the magical thinking behind gun-free zones is unlikely to be questioned in the wake of the Newtown killings. Having such zones gives people a false sense of security, and woe to the politician or business owner who now suggests that a “gun-free zone” revert back to what critics would characterize as “a wild, wild West” status. Indeed, shortly after the Cinemark attack in Colorado, the manager of the nearby Northfield Theaters changed its policy and began banning concealed handguns.

In all of the fevered commentary over the Newtown killings, you will hear little discussion of the fact that we may be making our families and neighbors less safe by expanding the places where guns aren’t allowed. But that is precisely what we may be doing. Both criminals and the criminally insane have shown time and time again that those laws are the least of the problems they face as they carry out their evil deeds.
BoobsMcGee writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 9:43:57 PM

Oh Mink. I have really tried to hold my tongue with your ridiculous rants. But when you say for someone to shot the president instead. You are a f*cking idiot.

Since you are all knowing, you should know publishing a statement like that against the president is a class D felony. And any one of us could just call the local secret service locations, show a screenshot of what you posted, and at least (the very least) have someone show up on your door, with the pages of rants you have written.

Freedom of speech-I don't think so you imbecile.

I think bc you disgust me with your awful mean rants, I should give them a call (it's an easy number here to find-got to love google).

And Alex should know that allowing you to keep publishing after a threat against our president could risk his site. Good job you complete moron. Your inept mind shows why we need to focus on the mentally ill. Retard.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 10:14:01 PM

^^lol. Shut up you stupid ugly crack whore c*nt and go back to whoring yourself out for children's diapers.

BTW, here's the Secret Service number, no need to tax that tiny brain of yours:

202-406-5708

Merry Christmas, skank.
DeVries writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 10:17:30 PM

Make this guy shut up for good. That's way to f*cking much since way to f*cking long. Damn.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 10:23:18 PM

Good luck with that.
slevin27 writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 10:51:12 PM

@ranger if you read the whole thing, I also suggested having someone to torture him, putting him I'm prison wasn't the only thing suggested. Either way he got off to easy, he deserved more punishment than what he inflicted on himself
Ranger writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 10:56:24 PM

Great.

So who is going to torture him?

How would that person look in the eyes of God (if they believe in that kind of a thing)?

If we put crimes onto criminals, where do we draw the line between the law and crime?

How would we be setting the example between right and wrong? Who would set the level of punishment (torture)? Who would do it... the law, or do you suggest we hire mercenaries?

Hmmm... didn't really think things through before your initial post and your rebuttal, have you?
Ranger writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:00:18 PM

He did get off easy. I'm not sure what your point is. Better he kill himself, save the tax payers MILLION$ of $'s. He can't ever do it again. All-in-all... this tragedy turned out the best it could.
BoobsMcGee writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:16:12 PM

Mink- see, we all know you for being a foul-mouthed, racist who spouts such hate that one would think your mommy-sister didnt take you to prom.

Crack whore? Diapers? Apparently you don't listen to well with those ears your "God" gave you. Cause I have proved: no, I am not a crack whore (if I was $147,000 take home and change MUST make me a successful one), but my kids attend a private school you mentally ill f-tard of a case.

You used to be decent. But lately proving otherwise...

But, I would rather NOT call the number you posted but the local office I live in. Challenge accepted. Numb nuts.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:23:15 PM

^^Please. You push paperwork for people looking to buy crappy cars in Glendale, Colorado. You're a goddamned used car sales...woman.

And you have terrible, terrible, decorating tastes.

I mean, what the f*ck is with the big ugly old television on your bedroom floor, but hey, that sh*tty rag above your desk, I mean *bed* really does sell your aging whore persona really well.

Good luck with that, as I'm wont to say.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:31:23 PM

"You used to be decent. But lately proving otherwise..."

I was never decent, and people like you who get a kick off psychopaths should be cheering me on, but, oh, wait, it's you now, and human depravity is only fun when it's "entertainment", right, eh Sac et al?

"But, I would rather NOT call the number you posted but the local office I live in. Challenge accepted. Numb nuts."

Here's the number, you dumb c*nt

DENVER 303-850-2700





By the way, here's something else your dumb ass should know:

"...the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit held that a threat was knowingly made if the maker comprehended the meaning of the words uttered by him. It was willingly made, if in addition to comprehending the meaning of his words, the maker voluntarily and intentionally uttered them as a declaration of apparent determination to carry them into execution."

I'll translate, since your job is merely tricking people into buying junk automobiles: I never threatened to do anything. I said "he should have shot Obama instead". Nothing in there my dumb little c*ck tease about me shooting, or killing anyone. No intent, no threat.

This is why you people are STUPID. You can't read, you can't f*cking understand sh*t, and then you get pissed when I run you down.

Not my fault you're not smart enough to know you're stupid.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:36:11 PM

One last thing, Boobs whatever your name is, you shouldn't go around flaunting your personal information on the internet like you do your tits.

http://tinyurl.com/cbwl3h3

See what I mean when I say you're not too bright?

But hey, you have moxie, and that's just as good, I guess, right?

Have a nice night, moron, and GO BRONCOS!
BoobsMcGee writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:40:00 PM

Ohhh Lawdy, Mr Mink just put me in my place. What eva shall I do....

First-
I don't even know where Glendale is bc place like Denver, Highlands, Littleton, and Vail are my home. But- oh, tell me oh sir what it's like to be some who claims to be into physics but has no goddamn f*cking idea of what that entails. Cause your pathetic hobo job has NOTHING to do with how smart you claim to be.

Love how you post the DC number for the secret service. But it doesn't surprise me. Why post YOUR local number- coward. I call my local office. But keep replying: it's something others would take as you believing your own statements.

Ahhhhh, an Adam "Mink" Lanza. We all saw the precursors ...but we didn't know he would go so far.. Boo friggin hoo.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:41:06 PM

I guess they call you an auto broker because all the autos you sell are broken.

GREAT job.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:42:27 PM

lol. You're such a liar. and the number isn't even in DC, it's the Denver prefix.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_codes_303_and_720

God you're pathetic.
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:44:12 PM

Anyway, you lost before you even started.

Good night, worthless slut.
BoobsMcGee writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:44:36 PM

Mink- never showed my boob. Just side boob. Cause I am a hot woman- not that you could ever get. Thank for the number. Already had looked it up retard. And post all you want about amendments. Drones are in our world- you don't think you may get a phone call with all the racist threats against the president. It will be my privilege to use my time to shut you up. Racist fag hating sociopath
minkowski writes:
on December 16th, 2012 at 11:46:32 PM

^^Like Minkowski always says: "Good luck with that!"

And love the tired ad hominems. Always a perfect sign the other side is done.
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 2:00:21 AM

I love how I didn't direct a thing toward you mink and you STILL managed to Insult me.. Lol..

Guys Apparently I'm a "Loudmouthed ignorant YouTube".
See mink that's exactly my point ^

Never do I seven voter to mention you or make fun of you ANYWHERE in this thread an somehow youstil
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 2:07:54 AM

You still feel the need to call me names and be an ass.. It's anoyying man, Like I know this is just some silly stupid site, But I still don't like getting thrown under the bus for nothing at all.

Regardless, I'm a grown ass man and I as well as you could really care less if I'm liked. Cheers.

Btw, I never read Twilight, not Fitfty shades of Stupid. I'm into Stephen King, Which you know and clearly Dispise. Noted.

As well I don't understand how you can sit there and say that I act like I want my opinions taken seriously, How on gods (presumably) earth have I shown that at all?


Tanman32123 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 2:16:22 AM

Lastly-

I'd like to also say that I DO have courage to make my own opinions, Such as this one I'm typing right now.
And wtf does that even mean? How can one steal an opinion, what the f*ck makes you think I'd do that?

f*ck me if I'm wrong but can't two different people have the same opinion on something?

And Thanks to McQueen and Champs.

Lol, And now I'm going to predict that your going to see my 3 badly structured post with awful grammar and make fun of me more along with some witty unnecessary jokes while callin me a bitch with no balls.

And over what? Nothing.

My fingers are tired lol.. Merry Christmas Mink, Your such a pleasure...
BoobsMcGee writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 7:33:23 AM

^ I just give up on this site. There are some people whose opinion is something to listen to (Ranger, McQueen, etc), but others who are so incredibly hateful they have to spew their mental illness all over us.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 8:36:17 AM

Just ignore him Boobs. These little personal wars that he thinks he has with people are hilariously pathetic.

"You talk and talk and talk but you always miss the most obvious sh*t because you're too busy pushing some mindless ideological agenda, a religion, like good old Sac who waits till I'm out the room to bloviate, sh*t someone else told you, instead of dealing with your own internal logic and rationality."

See what I mean? This guy actually thinks I post around his 18 hr presence here on WP. LOL!!! Like anyone could ever figure out his maniacal policing of the site. Like I said, its pathetic.

As for the legality of the weapons the shooter used, its becoming more and more apparent through the nature of the number of wounds in each victim that the Bushmaster (military grade) rifle was his most prevalent weapon of choice in the killings. Like I said before I don't think the common public should have access to military grade weaponry like this. Its legality should be up for discussion. I don't think the average person could go to a gun store and buy C4, so why should they be able to buy this?
SACdaddy writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 8:51:25 AM

Here in Texas guns are just a part of life. People LOVE their guns here. They can literally sit back and talk about guns for hours like we talk movies. Most I trust would never use one to harm anyone unless it was self defense but.......what happens if they get fired from their job, or their girlfriend/boyfriend cheats on them, or they get cut off on the highway, or any of the hundreds of reasons people pick a gun and kill other people every day in this country? I say eliminating that gun might at least eliminate one extremely bad choice for these people to make in those situations.
McQueen writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 9:16:42 AM

@My dear BoobsMcGee,

I hope you will read this enven though I'm a bit late. I want you to know that I am truly disgusted how this maniac of a sociopath has insulted you. You have all my sympathy as you've always shown yourself as an intelligent, funny, educated lady. I can't believe how this nasty psychopath has chosen the words to offend you! He's clearly sick in his head and there's no way he will gain any respect from me and neither will I waste my time on him. Such a despicable human being doesn't deserve anything good in life and this site is the only reason for him exist I believe. I can tell you I'll be much less regular from now on.

God bless you,

---

@SAC

I wish we could ignore the sick f*ck since he's constantly on a ranting spree 24/7.

And again, good post mate.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 9:32:01 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/world/asia/china-us-school-attack/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Just for comparison sake.
McQueen writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 9:34:36 AM

^ ^ Good point.
McQueen writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 9:37:01 AM

Chris Rock made also a good point on the subject:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX-nFmL0II&feature=player_embedded
bane writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 11:06:09 AM

@ BoobsMcGee

I just give up on this site

why should you ???

stay here hear all the move news
trust me
this is the ONLY site
that will post the star trek 9 minutes

other sites are...
''requested by the studio to remove''

there's no request about it
Patriot77 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 11:46:49 AM

Mink, I just wanted to say that I've been a creeper of this site for a year or two. After reading this crap, I had to register to say that I totally support you!
Tanman32123 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 12:24:12 PM

Worst first comment Eveerrrr!!
Patriot77 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 12:29:18 PM

Anyone remember that mall shooting that happened right before this shooting? The lamestream media refuses to report how a law-abiding citizen who drew his own concealed firearm helped stop that shooter from killing MANY more people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BuLgO4wo4xI
Ranger writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 12:48:08 PM

@Boobs - thx. I'm too busy on a project these days, so I haven't read this whole thread. But I have gotten the gist.

I agree with SAC (and I'm sure others if I had the time or cared to read all). Certainly weaponry shouldn't be available to all. The Right to Bear Arms... I don't know. I don't think this slaughter of innocent people is wheat the forefathers of the United States had in mind. There is so much consumerism. And the government is run by big business (doesn't matter which party is in office), that no one has the balls to hurt those big business's by ordering them... look, you can't sell those guns to the public (from the gun manufacturer to Walmart). And that's that. Like someone said (and we've seen it dozens of times before) having guns when the girlfriend breaks up with you, or you get fired from your job makes a sick person's justice all too easy. I swear that kid in Connecticut must have thought he was playing a video game the way he was mowing down those people. And whatever set him off to start blowing people away like his mother who was a known gun fanatic, well... too bad she didn't keep that passion to herself, and helped her son grow up with more wholesome thoughts. The guns shouldn't even have been accessible to her son. No responsibility on the mother's part. I don't feel for her. I do feel for the ripple-effect this will have on ALL of the survivors directly affected by all of this. People are scarred for life, because one mother loved her guns.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 2:43:05 PM

@Patriot77: Sure having a gun might have stopped further killings but did it do anything to prevent the situation from happening? No. If the same nut went to this mall with a butcher knife like the guy in China I noted he may have got a couple people but he definitely wouldn't have gotten as many or done as much damage as someone using a gun. In fact more (unarmed) people might have been more likely to try to stop him if he only had a knife, but hardly anyone (without the proper training) would try or have much of a chance against a gun.

Also, how often do you hear someone killing a thief, a rapist, a car jackers, a drug dealer, or some mass murder in self defense. Their were 3 armed people (one an off duty cop) in the parking lot where Congresswoman Gabbi Gifford was gunned down along with several others, and they didn't do sh*t to return fire or prevent all the killings. It took an unarmed senior citizens to grab the guy as he RELOADED (something they might not have been able to accomplish if he had higher magazine clips.

Without the NRA's influence this wouldn't even be a debate.
Ranger writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 2:58:40 PM

And we'll never know if the mother, so impassioned with firearms died a hero for maybe trying to stop her son from going on that rampage. Still... if you like guns. Best to keep that passion away from kids.
SACdaddy writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 3:02:36 PM

Roughly 12000 murders last year in the US. 8000 by firearm. 3/4 of the murders!!!

BTW that's more deaths here by firearms in 1 year than deaths of US soliders in both Afghanistan and Iraq wars combined over the last 10 years.

3000 people died on 9/11 in the World Trade Center and we went to war with 2 countries to see justice done and feel safe. Over 3000 US CHILDREN died by firearm last year and we refuse to lift a finger for their safety.

Where do our priorities lie as a country?
SACdaddy writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 3:07:04 PM

Ranger, she knew her son wasn't right though. She had been telling people close to her that she was "losing him" and that he was getting worse. That might have been a good time for her to lock up the gun collection even if it was just for his safety.
DeVries writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 3:18:12 PM

Great, Patrio77. Now suck Minkowski's sh*t.
Ranger writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 3:24:39 PM

@SAC - you beat me to it. As I read into your post... YES, she should have been responsible at least once in her life and locked up those f*cking guns! Her irresponsibility is causing 1000's to be in pain right now. Great job lady.
velocityknown writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 4:49:18 PM

I've discussed this topic too much with too many people and friends over the past few days, so I won't say too much as I am burned out and it seems like most of what can be said has been said. However, I like some of your guys' thoughts on here and thought some of you might find this article interesting (for better or for worse):

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html
Patriot77 writes:
on December 17th, 2012 at 7:10:40 PM

Firearms are used 2-2.5 MILLION times a year in the U.S. for self defense. Also, the total of those killed with firearms includes suicides, suspects shot by police, people killed in legal self defense and even soldiers killed in battle.

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