Warner Bros kicked off a viral campaign for "The Dark Knight Rises" on Monday. Fans were urged to go to different locations in order to find a specific piece of graffiti, which would unlock frames from the upcoming new trailer, which will appear in front of "The Avengers" on May 4th.
The studio was hoping it would take at least a few days to complete this mission, but in just a single day, fans were able to get the majority of the frames. Then all of the available frames were spliced together into an animated GIF, giving us a blury, silent look at the trailer.
As a result, Warners quickly released the official trailer, which you can now watch below.
I got this yesterday and watched many many times and looks better each time I watch it. This and a rated R Prometheus look like the must sees this summer. Also the Avengers even though I'm not looking forward to it even half as much as these two.
rockkillers- I highly doubt that this will be anywhere as near as good as the Avengers, since the previous two Batman films weren't as good as it. I've got a feeling this will be one of the biggest let downs of the year. Prometheus though... yeah that looks f*cking sick!
I wouldnt compare this to Avengers, the Marvel movies have a lot of fun and jokes in them and they dont take themselves very seriously. The Nolan Batman movies are a totally different genre, yes still comic book genre, but the tone of the movie is totally different compared to the Marvel movies.
I feel sorry for DC comics/fans. After TDKR comes out, that's it. Nolan ain't coming back. Warner Brothers are up against a wall getting mugged, but they're not fighting back. Marvel is taking a huge dump on them with their Cinematic Universe, but WB has no clue as to how to bring their heroes to the screen. They have Flash, Green Lantern (which sucked hard), Wonder Woman, Superman (but they've got the ball rolling on that) and sh*t loads of others! So what's the hold up?! They've got the finger on the trigger but it's the wrong one. Oops.
I feel sorry for DC comics/fans. After TDKR comes out, that's it. Nolan ain't coming back. Warner Brothers are up against a wall getting mugged, but they're not fighting back. Marvel is taking a huge dump on them with their Cinematic Universe, but WB has no clue as to how to bring their heroes to the screen. They have Flash, Green Lantern (which sucked hard), Wonder Woman, Superman (but they've got the ball rolling on that) and sh*t loads of others! So what's the hold up?! They've got their finger on the trigger but it's the wrong one. Oops.
Damon242- I think the Avengers had more character development and "drama" than Batman Begins and Dark Knight. I literally couldnt care less for any of the characters in Nolans Batman Universe, all cold, soulless. The only person who had a personality was The Joker and he was supposed to be the one I rooted against.
Nolan's Batmans are very much popcorn films in the fact that the enjoyable parts are the action scenes. People think The Dark Knight is some clever crime thriller but it's mediocre at best. I preferred Batman Begins for the gritty action scenes and slightly more 2 dimensional characters.
So you're right, I won't compare popcorn to drama, I'll compare popcorn to popcorn... and I feel Whedon's popcorn had slightly more flavour and was a deeper box. Nolans popcorn dark and gets lodged in your throat. Not that I don't like the new Batmans but for drama visit Tim Burtons originals....
I actually wasn't serious about any of it except Mighty Ducks! But Star Wars still sucks.
I respect how "ground breaking" it was for cinema but I don't get why people enjoy them so much especially younger people, The older ones who literally grew up with it I can understand, that just makes sense.
I think they're all pretty terrible, Half decent movies at best and I feel the same way about Star Trek.
Back to the Future, I'm just not a fan of But
I get why people enjoy them.
I grew up in the Barrio for years and it's something I can Relate to, So Ya even now I Would say the Friday Series is better than Star Wars because Kicking it on a stoop, smoking Weed all day, jammin to some tunes, Crackin jokes, skulls and rollin dice, talking to girls looking to f*ck is more appealing to me than the fantasy of kissing Twins who wanna f*ck each other who ride in space with a giant hairball, a jackass hero and a child raping Jedi preist. Because clearly Obi Wan was f*cking Anakin and thats way he switched over to Darkside. All the undertones are there as clear as the Twins who wanna f*ck.
What do I know doh. I'm retarted.
Lord of the Rings is the sh*t doh! I was just saying that Return of the King is the weakest of the three.
@cinema: I just had to say, it is so f*cking nice, refreshing in fact, to read words from someone with their head screwed on tight for a change, regarding Nolan's Batman films.
All these little uber-nerds do is parrot the same tired litany of raving praise for a film that is average at best, one in which Nolan couldn't do anything but rip off far superior films like Michael Mann's Heat, and now, we have to listen to the fanboy c*m drip off their chins for the next year or so, so like I said, it's is so f*cking fresh to hear some sanity for a change.
"People think The Dark Knight is some clever crime thriller but it's mediocre at best."
Lol. Clever. Right. This was the film where Nolan thought killing Gordon, and not letting the audience give a sh*t, without a damned good reason, putting his family through hell, all because The Joker was supposedly going to go after him, even though the Joker was currently working on Dimple Chin and Annoying c*nt, was a brilliant 'plot twist'.
Probably would have helped if our cinematic Jesus Christ had let the audience take the time to give a sh*t, but no, he was too busy flipping eighteen wheelers with a ton of carbon dental floss hooked up to the back of what looked like the Q-tip for Tim Burton's 'King Kong'.
Man, I could tear TDK twenty *ssholes for all it's myriad flaws, and not even break a sweat or wind.
I like how at the beginning Joker's crew breaks glass all over the street below but no one notices. Or how they can access the upper floor of a skyscraper but not the bank itself because we just had to have some goons that can't tie their shoes straight do eighty-feet high acrobatics. They couldn't just access the bank directly? Oh wait, they do.
Then you have the Joker slamming into a bank with a bus, and pulling out into traffic, right in front and between a bunch of other buses, but if you look, and you can't help not to, no one even f*cking notices. Not even the people on the street. In Heat, when Neal's crew attacks the armored car, they have a setup, they know the police's reponse time. In Nolan's idiotically impaired world of nerdtastic subterfuge (known to Chrissy as 'realism') not only do the villains not need to know response times, they don't even need to care because cops only show up when you need someone to do impossible SWAT van tosses into rivers.
And the guy guarding the bank. lol. Dude cannot even shoot right! He wastes ammo just hitting the desks! While yelling. Who taught the f*cker to fire? Elmer Fudd? It's a SHOTGUN. This isn't Duke Nukem. No infinite ammunition, *sshole. But he keeps plugging away. One skinny guy, who can't shoot worth d*ck, guarding the mob's money. lol! Clever indeed. And the entire philosophical debate between the two? lol. Yeah, right, I'm sure all the mob henchmen are interested in the moral meanderings of some wacko in facepaint during a bank heist.
And then the Joker, supposedly a brilliant strategist, puts something in Mr Bank Guardian's mouth. Is it a bomb? Laughing gas? Liquid nitrogen? A faulty can of Vidal Sassoon? Who the f*ck knows? It spews gas, but it never does any thing, and before the question is answered we cut to some other unrelated bullsh*t involving 'batmen'.
So why was that put in there? Who the f*ck knows and who the f*ck cares, Heath Ledger killed his stupid assed self and so no questions ever get asked because we just can't impugn the memory of the brave beautiful courageous Hollywood soul who gave the world the first major motion picture homosexual cowboy.
Because that's what REALLY matters.
And that's just the first ten f*cking minutes, and TDK runs for for another five hours, all of which are filled with endless garbage and stupid plots and a wortless, unwanted, unneeded Titanic-like love-triangle and sh*ttily shot action scenes and vapid left-wing commentary a child wouldn't waste time regurgitating, like the whole boat scene with the black criminal who has more heart than the 'evil wealthy white guy', even though the black guy is likely in prison for shoving his mother off a cliff for a bag of crack.
We get it Nolan, you can't think, you're a pretentious dumbass, and you have to jam your idiotic left-wing garbage into this dead, leaden 'comic-book movie', a movie with no magic, no ambiance and one whit of FUN.
And we can already tell, with Catwoman's 'eat the rich' commentary, and the ugly guy with the facehugger over his mouth, and Bale coughing up bat-lungs, we're in for more of this dreadful dreck with TDKR, and the fat-assed cheeto-eating coca-cola inhaling twirp fanboys will suck it down and call it the nectar of the gods.
Yes, because being a troll is putting the truth out on the fore where it needs to be seen, even though the people doing the looking are too willfully blinded by their mindless raging hard-on for a vastly-over-rated director and his bleak, soulless films.
And the bore is the director who does the same damned thing in every film. You know the style. Lifeless, robotic characters with no personality or humor scutting about in a world of grey humorless banality. That's a f*cking bore.
Hey, Nolan, so I can't 'troll' any more on your preposterous hype, how about making ONE, just ONE f*cking movie where the characters SMILE. Just ONE. Just ONE where there's a happy ending, not some ambiguous bullsh*t, at best? Can you do it? How about a comedy? An uplifting romance? How about just balls-to-the-wall properly-shot action? Can you do that? Hire Renny Harlin if you need a superior director, because even he can do better action. Or John McTiernan. Or Len Wiseman. All of them can do better action than you because all of them can at least understand the 180 degree rule, but obviously you can't because you're too busy writing in unnecessarily complicating love triangles.
How's my trolling now?
f*ck TDK and f*ck the f*cking f*ckhead fanboys that can't think for themselves or handle any criticism of their piece of sh*t "Greatest Film Ever".
Mink- Cheers mate, you know people are gonna complain about your posts for having an opinion different from there own. The fact that people think Dark Knight is so amazing shows how low the quality of motion pictures have stooped and what audiences now consider a "clever film" without actually thinking too much about it.
In Nolan's idiotically impaired world of nerdtastic subterfuge (known to Chrissy as 'realism') not only do the villains not need to know response times,
That's what makes me laugh the most how Nolan wouldn't use Penguin because it didn't fit in to his "real" universe but the characters in these films are so hollow and emotionless I felt depressed just sitting through it.
And what's leezy84 on about calling you a c*nt because you said an opinion and backed it up with reasons why the film is ridiculous. All I hear people saying on here when they're getting a boner over Nolans Batmans is how they're "soo awesome!" without actually giving any reasons why. It's an OK action film it's not a f*cking masterpiece. Inception was over rated as well, as much as I loved it visually it wasn't that clever, Nolan felt the need to hand the audience the plot on a plate and treated them like retards. Minimum thinking needed but people come out feeling like they're all clever for getting it.
All I can say is I can't wait to see the reaction of people after this next film comes out. Will people just say it's good for the sake of it, or does Tom Hardy have to die for it to become as over rated as TDK. The last hour of the film showed that Nolan didn't really know where he was going with the whole thing, a good director would look back and see that and cut the sh*t. I love Memento but with a good script and strong leading man you can't go too wrong, Nolan should get off Hollywoods d*ck and prove his worth again.
@cinema: Yeah, I know the haters will come crawling out of the woodwork, I'm used to it, but if you notice I can tear on about any old film, but as soon as I get ugly with TDK, they start the name-calling.
Notice how their thinking is very similar to the religious mentality. You can insult whomever, but if you talk trash about Allah or Jesus, your head is coming off or your getting excommunicated. Now notice how angry and hateful people get when you trash their secular god. Nolan, Obama, whomever, which tells me that if you rid the world of every religion, idiots would just find something else to worship, something else over which to kill and hate. Some gold totem to shove up their asses.
As for Nolan's characters, none of them have any personality. No soul. There's nothing going on inside them. They're just automatons, like the characters in the Matrix films. No humor, no idiosyncrasies, no quirks to make them more believable or likeable. They just ape the motions and the skitter off stage when Nolan calls cut.
"And what's leezy84 on about calling you a c*nt because you said an opinion and backed it up with reasons why the film is ridiculous."
I expect very, very little from the buffoons that worship Nolan, just as I expect very, very little from Evangelicals and Ak-toting Muslim extremists. Creative, thoughtful people they aren't. Not much lubrication in a dry sponge.
"without actually giving any reasons why."
There aren't any reasons. And they know it. They just like having a religion, something to which they can belong. That's all that matters. Group identity with a shallow fad and the joy of belonging to some rank and file pop-cultural circus.
"Minimum thinking needed but people come out feeling like they're all clever for getting it."
Exactly. Film's like Inception sell the delusion to people that they're smarter than they are, so they come away with this artificial sense of self-worth because they've been bamboozled into thinking believing they just aced the cinematic equivalent of a MENSA test, when they've really just finally learned how to tie their shoes by having someone else to do it for them.
"All I can say is I can't wait to see the reaction of people after this next film comes out."
I can wait. In fact, I'm dreading it. Because all these gibbering drooling goobers will spend all summer and fall and winter screaming about the greatness of TDKR, and demanding the head of any critic who dares to disagree, while every other film is ignored.
Yeah, I dread it like Mormons knocking on my f*cking door.
Worse. Even they understand the words 'f*ck off'.
"Nolan should get off Hollywoods d*ck and prove his worth again."
Nolan's a whore, a tool. He's at the big table now. He proved his worth and they let him into the temple and now he eats with a gilded fork and sh*ts with gods. He doesn't have to prove himself and he never will again. Maybe one day he'll challenge himself. Take a small budget a make a small film, something good, something exploratory, but even then, it'll be bland and banal and humorless because there's just something WRONG with that man. His personality is reflected in the dull, listless eyes of every character he crafts, and it makes me want to take a chainsaw to my neck. Should have been him that OD'ed and not Ledger, but the world just isn't f*cking fair I guess.
Mink- That's pretty much the human curse I guess, everyone wants to belong and find some kind of meaning to this pointless existence. Maybe Nolans dull style and 1 dimensional characters is his own Auteristic stamp on his films so people know it's him, either that or him and his brother are manic depressives who don't understand people or society at all.
People will always look for someone to worship like you said which is why so called "celebrities" in general are made out to be these perfect beings without flaws. People need to stop being scared of being different and grow some nuts.
mpiper- I think Prestige is the same thing really, good idea and a much better film than Nolans larger scale ones but no one had any personality, even David Bowie was depressed! LOL
some people will never know the difference between having a conversation and trolling their opinion out to the world.
when I walked out of TDK I thought yeah the action was great, Ledger was great but maaaaaan the story and the dialogues bored the hell out of me, so much politics and bla bla. Wasnt this supposed to be a comic book movie?
I had 100 times more fun watching the Avengers. Joss Whedon is an entertaining Master!
As for Nolan, Inception was really good, but TDK was way to overhyped.
agree with you on the "realism" thing. But I'd say we have to define this a bit better.
A movie defines it's own realism. A man turning into a green monster smashing aliens is totally fine cuz it doesnt break it's realism, it has been defined before. A bus breaking out of a bank through a wall in daylight and nobody notices it? REALISM BROKEN! Those people on the street have defined as normal people in a normal environment, which allowes me to expect them noticing!
I love how people can always bash about something that they don't like but when it comes to something that they do like they can'tt talk bad about it themselves.
"Actually, we all like Prometheus and Avengers just fine. And that's quality."
Lets take Prometheus for example. Most people are all hoping that its going to be this great science-fiction masterpiece, me included. But they don't want to face the idea that in reality its most likely going to be another predictable hollywood movie.
It will start off by having scientists who have been trying to find some answers to life, so they find "a message" that will take them to a far off planet. They'll get there and go exploring in what at first they think is some type of cave or tunnel, but will eventually realize it's an alien ship. They will find some "unknown life form or object" which they will bring back to their ship to examine. In the mean time one of them will get infected but keep it to his/herself. Everyone else will be to interested in what they brought back until that object injures or infects someone else.
Maybe throw in a natural element on the planet that they might have to worry about as well.
Then at some point we will find out that Charlize Theron's character who probably works for Weyland or some government corp. will play dumb at first but then reveal that they knew something was on this planet and her objective was to bring back a specimen with no regard for anything else.
In the mean time the person infected will either start changing into an alien monster or go crazy and start killing or infecting the other crew members one by one. Until everyone else catches on. They will find out that the next stop for this "alien thing" will be earth and try to stop it. Blowing up it's ship and/or sacrificing themselves in the process. The corporate bitch will die and the android will either go crazy too or try to be a "savor" and save the others by sacrificing himself. And either one person will survive or they will all die in the end to "save earth". And maybe we'll see some connection to alien in the last 5 minutes. the end.
Unfortunately now a days people spend to much time trying to reinvent instead of inventing something new.
"But they don't want to face the idea that in reality its most likely going to be another predictable hollywood movie."
They're all pretty predictable, save those that have some sort of twist. We know Batman won't die, and we know Catwoman and Bane will suffer some sort of defeat. That's pretty generic and predictable. Nothing special in any of Nolan's Batman films either. Just less of everything that would make a generic film entertaining.
"Unfortunately now a days people spend to much time trying to reinvent instead of inventing something new."
Everyone makes that statement, and everyone who makes that statement can't come up with anything truly original either, so why say it? Either come up with something truly new and fresh or leave the cynical cliches in the trash where they belong.
"I love how people can always bash about something that they don't like but when it comes to something that they do like they can'tt talk bad about it themselves."
To whom the f*ck are you referring? I haven't seen Prometheus so how can I speak of it's flaws? I've seen Alien though and most people agree it was a fairly good film. And I've seen Avengers, and I was thoroughly entertained, and I could go on about how some of the film could have been improved, but if I do then people such as yourself will bitch about my negativity, so there's no way to get a grip on people that eschew rationality in favor of fanaticism.
"nolan's disappeared so far up his own ass he won't be able to see anything rising never mind the so called "dark knight""
lol. Yeah, I see. Burton had a better handle on what makes Gotham and Batman work imo, and yeah, Tim gets old doing the same sh*t, but at least when I watch Batman Returns, I can say, this place looks dismal and creepy and Batman looks like a freak, which is how I interpret the comics.
With Nolan's, I say hey, there's some dude in plastic running around at lunchtime fighting another loser in a pimps palette of Maybelline.
Yes, because my greatest fear is whether or not Scott's latest film reinvents the horror-sci-fi genre, because what I want isn't another solid Alien film, it's an experimental exploratory avante garde trip into French surrealism or some other sh*t....
@mink- "and I could go on about how some of the film could have been improved, but if I do then people such as yourself will bitch about my negativity"
I have no problem with people sharing their opinions and i'm always interested in what your thoughts are on certain movies. So please express your opinion on how some of the film could have been improved.
Yeah that trailer def summed up the facts the bane does take batman out in the first fight then rains havok down on gotham.. sh*t def made my d*ck move a little bit though , at first im thinking how can they out do the joker but tom hardy's the sh*t and looks f*cking brutal as bane just watch bronson he was f*ckin incredible in that flick....... But since people complained about his voice without watching the full movie Nolan fixed it and it sounds like its off when he's on the screen
"So please express your opinion on how some of the film could have been improved."
Just so I can here someone else bitch that I'm being negative? What's the point?
I'm sure Avengers could have been improved, visually or otherwise, though. Some of the scenes with Loki riding around had some green screen issues, I know that. I know that some of the characters could have used improved screen time and slightly tweaked integration, and I know there could have been a bit better unwinding with the story regarding Hawkeye's 'defection' to Loki, so that's a few vague things right off the top of my head, though you have to understand, I saw the film via a sh*tty cam (and even still picked up on the greenscreen thing) so I'd have to claw through it again.
I mean Mink is right i just watched the dark knight and im thinking to myself they didnt really explain much and things just sort of happened like putting 100 gas cans in a boat with c4 without anyone seeing them the list does go on but No One will ever make the perfect movie and someone will always complain or not be happy with somthing and thats just how it is but non to less im just excited to see bane f*ck sh*t up and kill the batman and the scarecrow who acts as a judge and sentences gordan to death THE ANARCHY in TDKR will be unforgetable and im not just saying that cause im from Pittsburgh
It will own summer.....after Prometheus finishes f*cking everything in sight.
Avengers can have 3rd place at 4/5,a cool popcorn blockbuster but not the classic the hype machine wants you to believe.The Transformers with a plot comparison I've read is about right.
And another thing regarding Avengers, the ending was a bit too pat imo. Too easy. Loki gets creamed by Hulk, sure, that was comedic gold, but too easy. It was rushed like the had to just get Loki done and gone, and the battle scenes, way too Dark of the Moon, and the delivery of the bomb through the portal was smack off Independence Day.
But back to Loki, I thought he was this uber villain? And his Army was nothing but an easily dispatched bunch of hack drones, like the aliens in Battle Los Angeles, that conveniently konked out when the mother ship went boom? How contrivedly tidy for the film's conclusion, because the portal was only large enough to send in some ships and guys on Return of the Jedi speederbikes? Reminds me of the ending to Green Lantern when Hal carries the villain off into the sun when a battalion of GLs couldn't do any better.
And no final mano e mano with Loki? No Caine and Abel plot developing finale? Why not? Kenneth Branaugh would have gone that route. Why not Whedon?
And I'm just getting warmed up. If I watched the film again with an eye to improvement, I could do much, much better, but I watched Avengers for the fun factor, not as a directive in how to make films.
I know you're trying to goad me into proving my claim, and I see through your machinations, but I can assure you I don't care to spend more time than necessary arguing with the sundry twats over a film I actually like, one that doesn't have a lousy fanatical following.
And I already gave you a sampler, so I think I'll call it done with this line of discussion. If you want, maybe I'll write up a dissertation on how to improve Whedon's Avengers one day.
@ Gnarkill -Agreed. There are some things that happen in TDK that Nolan doesn't get into. Like the planning and setup of certain events in scenes, I guess he leaves it up to assumption. I'm sure if he wanted to he could have shown those details but didn't want to take the time. Then we would have been sitting there for 4 and half hours instead.
You can't tell a movie will beat the sh*t out of another movie without seeing it yet. Just because The Dark Knight was kicking major ass at the Box Office, does not mean it will this year. The Avengers is something brand new in cinema, and that movie contains a lot of memorable superheroes that we all admire, and usually like @trailertrash said the third movies are usually the worst, that could be one of the reasons TDKR won't be amazing... See, I like Batman Begins a lot, The Dark Knight is good, but not even close to be as good as Batman Begins, so you have absolutely no reason to say that "The Dark Knight Rises" will beat the sh*t out of 'The Avengers'. See the f***ing movie first and then come back here.... You know what? maybe The Amazing Spider-Man will beat Batman at the box office! Anything could be predicted before a movie comes out, but can't say it as a fact!
For once in my life, I agree with you. Yes I too have read that Batman breaks his leg but in a scene towards the end, he also breaks your mothers back with some bat c*ck, the result of which, is you - Bratfagin. Have a nice day :)
"There are some things that happen in TDK that Nolan doesn't get into. Like the planning and setup of certain events in scenes, I guess he leaves it up to assumption. I'm sure if he wanted to he could have shown those details but didn't want to take the time. Then we would have been sitting there for 4 and half hours instead."
Actually, if he got into how things happen, how they COULD happen, the film would have never been made because he does sh*t that simply could never occur, like detonating an entire hospital without a single soul seeing him commission a full-scale demolition. He claims to follow realism, but his films are nothing of the sort, and if you tried to make anything he does mirror actual reality, you would fail as fast as Nolan himself, which is something Cameron never did by way of comparison.
TDK only had great music/sound, fighting scenes, a great villain and explosions. Like someone mentioned above the dialogue wasn't that sharp, so sometimes you got bored. The best scene that movie had was in the ending when Gordon says the last lines of the movie before the credits roles.
No, he leaves it up to bullsh*tting, because the larger the film he helms, the worse the production. He simply does NOT have the brain matter to handle truly complex and/or large films or even sizable set pieces. He's inferior to Bay on action, by far, and grossly inferior to Cameron in story scope, and he'll never get any better because he's to well fed and lazy.
@ mink-"but I can assure you I don't care to spend more time than necessary arguing with the sundry twats over a film I actually like, "
Oh. So you will only care to spend more time criticizing movies you don't like ( I mean stating your opinions) and criticize other people for liking them or sharing their own opinions. But will not "spend more time than necessary" criticizing movies you like. Got it.
^^Actually you haven't got it and people like you haven't got it since 2008.
You put TDK up on a golden altar and make Nolan your god. You invite irreverent criticism and then absolutely fail to appreciate what you've done to make the situation what it is, and then you blame the critics for not being 'consistent', which again is an all too familiar from the world of religious irrationality.
And I've never stated that I didn't/don't like TDK. This is again a very simple issue that you and others have very consistently failed to comprehend for four years now. In fact, what I most assuredly don't like is your mindless deification, and gain, you fail to see how your actions repulse non-believers and then blame the non-believers for the criticism you've engendered with your fanaticism.
Another issue is that you have a very poor, deliberately poor memory when it comes to the discussion, which reminds me of a family member's selective memory. He can recall every bad thing I've done that works in his argument favor, yet he fails to recall his own detrimental actions or any my positive contributions. His selective memory only works to reinforce his preconceived notions, which again, is culled right from the religious playbook.
The fact is, I've torn apart a variety of films, even Shawshank, on here and elsewhere for their flaws, but none of those films have a fervent, zombie-like following of rabid robots, so no one notices, no one cares. If you need evidence, just re-read your own posts from my perspective, which will require a bit if imagination on your part, but I have faith you can do it if you try.
"But will not "spend more time than necessary" criticizing movies you like. Got it."
lol, you're quite the disingenuous poster aren't you? You fail to recall that I said I would have to watch this sh*tty Avengers cam again, and you failed to mention a number of criticisms I offer to placate your strawman 'arguments', but again, right from the religious-irrational playbook, so color me unsurprised.
lol. reading your words, minkowski, makes me see you sitting in front of your computer stomping your foot on the ground every five seconds with a grim look in your face. get a life. no one cares, if someone likes the batman-movies or not. but you.
All i know is that Bane is going to be a ruthless ruthless villian snaping necks busting knee caps punching holes through mofo's all kinds of good stuff and i hope he does kill batman at the end of the movie and end all the reboots and remakes but mink where did u read that about his leg? Cause if he did snap his back there would be a 3 year gap for him to get better so i know that wont happen
lol, why do people always assume someone's angry? Do you really believe you can judge someone's emotional state through their words even though you can't comprehend their most basic repeatedly-stated motivations?
Who cares nolans batman trilogy is def 100times better then johnny depps batman series ohhh i mean tim burton. Nolans batmans are different and have more of a realistic feel they may not be the best movies in history but def good and different , i like diffferent people who make the same sh*t gets old
First of all I never made any references on TDK, whether I thought it was good or bad, whether I like Nolan or not, and whether or not you liked or disliked TDK, I never said anything about it and was never talking about that movie! Nor do I care. And I especially don't praise TDK or Nolan like a f*ckin religion, which is bullsh*t IMO anyway. I also don't care if you "tore apart" Shawshank or not.
"Actually you haven't got it and people like you haven't got it since 2008"
And I'm not one of those people who think that, that movie is a f*cking masterpiece movie. People put it way to high on a pedestal and are blind to see what kind of movie it really was.
^^Then why are you making such a stink over how I feel about TDK? I lumped you in with the Nolanologists because you made yourself quite prominent in questioning my attitudes and thoughts in a thread wherein I took TDK again to task, so it makes your attitude dubious to say the least.
@minkowski. Tim Burtons' Batman films are sh*t compared to Nolan's. They were nice as a kid maybe, when you were even stupider, but his "vision" of Gotham is laughably cheesy and unrealistic. But whom am I to argue with a guy who thinks Renny Harlin is good action director. Renny f*cking Harlin. What a joke! And your complaining that there is not enough smiling in Nolan's fillms. f*ck off with your pedestrian, imbecile film criticism. If you ran a studio, I'm sure we would see some godawful loud, brightly colored, shallow mindless drivel in our cinemas. And you would chewed up and spit out by critics and the industry quickly.
^Actually I live for a frank and honest exchange of ideas amongst intelligent and knowledgeable people, but unfortunately, I'll just have to settle for WorstPreviews for the time being.
And as empirical evidence of aforementioned observation, I present 'Cress', above, who is apparently not the brightest bulb in the Hope Depot chandelier, as he can't comprehend that my remark regarding Renny Harlin was obviously, well obvious to anyone near the apex of the IQ bell curve, sarcasm.
And then he goes on with a variety of ad hominem attacks in defense of his little tin god, which, really, I need not be bothered by any further.
And yet I will.
But hey, at least Burton knows gothic, you know, the root of the word Gotham, so he's one-up on Nolan who still hasn't understood that a flying rat, per his latest silly vehicle (gosh no, does it really 'function', like the bat pod? How gives a f*ck?) and a bat aren't the same f*cking thing, but hey, if that's his definition of realism, good for him.
@cress - Tim Burton wasn't trying to make a realistic version of Gotham like Nolan was. And it's all "laughably chessy" you have a grow man running around in a rubber costume and another man wearing clown makeup.
As gay as this sounds im going to be riding the Bane d*ck wagon for a while cause hes going to be a bad mother f*cker and one can only hope that batman does sacrifice himself and die it would make for a great ending and thats probably what will happen
"but his "vision" of Gotham is laughably cheesy and unrealistic."
They were made twenty f*cking years ago. And have you never read a Batman comic book? They're cheesy by content alone. Since when did anyone equate comic books with dark over-bearing seriousness anyway? That's why we have the bible. Comic books are supposed to be FUN!
What exactly was so unrealistic about Batman and Batman returns? Penguins with rockets? Okay, so maybe there's a little leap into the unnatural, but then there's nothing remotely realistic about TDK either.
I really think you people are confusing the words 'serious' with 'realistic'.
Sure, Burton's vision isn't all that serious, but Nolan's is super-serious in such a way that it drains all the fun and pleasure of watching the film right the f*ck out, and yet neither are any more realistic. They both involve huge leaps of the imagination to make them work. Burton goes the fantasy route, Nolan goes the unscientific, how the f*ck is that even remotely route.
"Comic books are supposed to be fun." I know someone who said those exact same words minkowski: Joel Schumacher. Its all so clear to me now. You hate Nolans films because you love the "comic book vision" employed by Joel Schumacher. You truly are a f*cking moron.
i like burtons batman films,there not that cheesy,but the only difference between nolan and burtons films is that burtons are meant to be fun and something you shouldn't take too seriously and nolans are you are supposed to take seriously because its not really meant to be a kids movie,more of a teen/adult film,i realize its pretty obvious i just felt like point it out
@cress: I'm done with you. You have the IQ of a peach pit. I guess because I once said "I'm hungry" and Jesus Christ once said the same thing, I must also think I'm the spirit of God here to offer salvation.
Your lack of intelligence is a huge, no, insurmountable, barrier to me even imagining I could one day experience a remotely worthy conversation with you.
ahhh sh*t ur funny Mink but good look on that spoiler page but when you watched the trailer for tdkr did u see that scene where what looks like bane pushing that girl into a pit with no mask on, its right after they show the tumber riding threw snow from a chopper view'
1 minute 51 seconds
the prisoner doing the cartwheel
It’s Selina Kyle
The thug sticks his arms out
calling to her
She says “Oh, you want to hold my hand, baby?”
Then she breaks his arms
an extra on the movie
told about this
and A lot of people
didn’t believe it
but now it’s been proven true
Minkowski is done with me. Oh no! What will I ever do? I've offended King Turd of sh*t Mountain. You are a douchebag Minkowski. You spout pedophilic humor and rape references in with your posts most of the time. No one else will tell you to piss off because there lips are attached to your *sshole, ingesting your sh*t and asking for more witha smile. So enjoy the feeling of being important here in WP comment section. I'm sure that's all you have.
Loki gets creamed by Hulk, sure, that was comedic gold, but too easy. It was rushed like the had to just get Loki done and gone, and the battle scenes, way too Dark of the Moon, and the delivery of the bomb through the portal was smack off Independence Day.
Mink- Yeah, I was waiting for something much more epic with Loki I thought that was a bit of a cop out. The race that they were fighting weren't supposed to be robots either so yeah I don't get why they all just collapsed like sh*tty droids from Phantom Menace. They were also quite weak as well seems like they could have been defeated just by the normal army if Black Widow was shooting them with guns. But yeah, I'm sure Joss Whedon understood a lot of this and as whole he gave us exactly what we wanted, he's not like Nolan pretending it's some serious film. It's men in tights and women in tights, f*cking sh*t up!
pornfly- Cheers pal!
Cress- Tim Burtons Batman films are supposed to be a bit cheesey, they're a lot creepier and darker than Nolan's though and I was actually hoping Keatons Batman wouldn't die whereas Bale could have choked on his own croaky voice and I wouldn't give a sh*t.
Jeez, there's so much hate on The Dark Knight. I mean, maybe it wasn't as epic as everyone made it out to be, but it was still a good movie. Everyone seems to be pointing out every little plot hole, but a lot of good movies have plot holes. To me, The Dark Knight wasn't about looking for every thing that was wrong with it. I liked the point of the movie. If I may sound like a geek for a bit, it was about Harvey Dent's and Batman's legacy, and which one had to be realized for Gotham. In the end, that's what I liked about The Dark Knight.
gidday mink ive missed you. I guaruntee mink would have loved the batman movies if everyone else didnt like it. He is one of those guys that loves to disagree with the majority. He is like the loser of hipsters
Bane pulled Batman from the car. He paused, dropped Batman to the sidewalk, and pressed the stud on his arm: the sweet warmth of Venom . . .
The time had come to decide what to do with his enemy. Kill him? A death, painful but swift? No. That would destroy this Batman, but with little satisfaction. Bane remembered what he had said to the Mick: "When others look at you, they will remember this day. When I look at you, I will again enjoy this moment."
If that had been true of the Mick, an annoyance hardly worthy of Bane's attention, how much more was it true of Batman? To conquer the enemy—that was admirable. But to break him, to watch him writhe helplessly, to hear him plead for mercy—that was magnificent. A man who could do that would have cause to fear nothing.
"I will keep you in a cellar," Bane said aloud. "Once a week I will have them drag you across the floor by one foot—"
Bane could see it. Batman, pale, blinded by light, smeared with filth, dressed in tatters, so thin his ribs almost burst from his skin, his arms and legs flopping, drool leaking down his chin.
"Give him a c*ckroach to eat," Bane says. "Give him a live mouse. Then put fire to his feet. I want to hear him scream."
The brief vision had the power of a prophecy.
Effortlessly, Bane lifted Batman high overhead and looked around: there were the three men warming themselves at the fire in the trash barrel; an old lady wrapped in a dark shawl shuffling past them; a delivery van stopped at a traffic signal; and a block behind him, a station wagon similar to the one the warden at Santa Prisca had owned.
"Look!" Bane roared. The men, the old lady, even the van driver turned their eyes toward him.
Good trailer. Seems like Nolan is still keeping plenty of secrets and big stuff out of the trailers, which is fine for me. Loved both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, and this definitely is looking like it will be a great ending to the trilogy.
@Devries: You and your Nolan groupies need to 'chill'.
Remind yourself, it's just a movie, he's just a director. Go outside. Go fishing. Go hiking. Put down your cell phone and get away from the Xbox and slide away from the vending machine. Stop sh*tting every half hour. Put down the bong and the family-sized bag of Doritos Cool Ranch potato chips. Drop the Ding Dongs and Ho Ho's.
And just remember, the big bad old Minkowski can't, won't, come into your home to steal your precious dog-eared copies of TDK and all your comic books and and all your 'collectible figurines'.
I promise. You and all your post-modern objects of worship are safe from me.
It amuses me to see people bashing Nolan's work and then simultaneously treating The Avengers like it's the godsend of character development and narrative.
No, Nolan's work isn't perfect and follows some convention itself, but to use The Avengers as the antithesis to Nolan's work and call it superior? You're going to have a hard time selling that to anybody, and no amount of egotism or diversion of "you're a Nolan apologist" is going to help.
I called it popcorn because The Avengers is convention through and through. Whedon masterfully convinces the Marvel drones that the character development is strong whereas in actual fact the characters come off the same as they were to begin with.
Is it all about team work? Or has Stark and company already experienced team work in their own films?
Please. I'm tired of seeing people treating their opinions as fact.
And yes, to those who feel that I am aiming this at you, rest assured that I am in fact targeting you.
As soon as I see individuals who factually present what is so obviously their opinion, I know they're a waste of time.
I trust that Mink will look at this and laugh. This is what to expect from megalomaniac, and I know that hegemony dictates that there will always be someone like him.
I'm going to go and watch films that I like, films that hit the right beats for me and do what they do; entertain. I like to embrace the escapism that film, television, and novels provide. I would hate to have to analyze every piece of fiction to impress nobody - something that the company here inspire you to do.
It's a personal experience that I don't need to share with anyone, or justify to anyone.
Just like when you're dealing with pretentious art students; you cannot win, because they're crazy.
A whole back you and I got into an got into a debate which quickly evolved into a shoot out. I remember that day so vividly because for the first time in my life I sat down on my computer all day dissing someone I didn't even know or care about, you know what I mean, right?
Well seems like things haven't changed, you still love to hate. That is very evident. You still spend hours talking about your personal hate for Chris Nolan as if he was your abusive step-father, putting you in your place when ever you went out of line. Something you clearly need now, but oh no, it's the Internet we can't really back up our words with actions, shame.
Funny, because I remember myself insulting you because of your lack of social life, insults to which you responded by claiming that sitting on a computer all day and talking garbage to people is just as much of a social life as actually going out and meeting face to face, where someone can express their opinion of you not just verbally, but physically as well.
I was just wondering because I bet most of people on here wonder the same, why don't try and bring your opinions on the state of cinema to a more mainstream audience? It just really bugs me that someone with such ........ knowledge........ would never try and expand, limiting himself to fanboys and people who lack the ability to argue effectively. We can all argue against children
A detailed explanation would be nice.
Feel free to take jabs at me with your seemingly endless amount of dry jokes. I always get nice laugh.
Oh well put Damon, don't be surprised if mink comes at with a joke that..... Well...... Is just not that funny.
I will go take a quick jog now, do I apologize if I don't respond instantaneously like Mink who has trained his hands to their physical apex by doing nothing else but typing, amongst other things.
^^Pretentious? Come on dude. You're posting sh*t no one wants to read using words you don't even understand so you too can seem like a 'smart guy', when you're not. An example?
"and I know that hegemony dictates that there will always be someone like him."
You don't even understand the word hegemony, but you use it anyway and you're too damned lazy to even look it up because you know no one else will either, so you can get away with the fakery of looking smart. You're a fraud, and yet you call people that are actually intelligent enough to use a dictionary 'pretentious'.
Btw, hegemony is just a form of dominance of imperialism, so when you say what you said, you're really saying "the state of hegemony dictates that there will always be a state of hegemony".
Yeah, and the fact that there will always be a sky means we will always have a sky over us.
"Please. I'm tired of seeing people treating their opinions as fact."
And I'm tired of people ignoring the facts in favor of their opinion. You know, like the fact TDK is f*cking flawed as sh*t, as evidence by the numerous flaws any idiot can see if they take Nolan's c*ck from their mouth.
"I'm going to go and watch films that I like, films that hit the right beats for me and do what they do; entertain"
Yep. Just like every other bigot who refuses to read anything contrary to their experience, thus you'll never grow and you'll forever remain ignorant, safe in your small world of calculated expectations.
"It's a personal experience that I don't need to share with anyone, or justify to anyone."
Riiiiight, which is why you're here every day posting you opinion, because you don't care to share your personal experiences or justify anything to anyone. lol. Thanks for clearing that one up, Damon.
"It amuses me to see people bashing Nolan's work and then simultaneously treating The Avengers like it's the godsend of character development and narrative."
It amuses me even more to see people inventing comments and conversations that never occurred, or grossly mis-characterizing other people's opinions, or even ignoring those that don't serve an ulterior purpose. You know, like the way you're slyly trying to say, without naming anyone (how clever!), that some people are claiming Avengers is a perfect film, when in fact no one, including me or cinema, has said anything more than it was a rousing good time. You know, entertainment.
But hey, keep lying, and keep using words you don't comprehend, Damon. If YOU think you're smart, maybe, just maybe, that Generation Me narcissism will convince a total of two people.
@bctande: You're right. I need one of these 'social lives'. Let me grab a couple of dudes and we can go play Call of Duty and Warcraft, and when we get done we can hang out at some sleazy strip club or go get sh*t-faced puking drunk while we hit on the tatted-up ugly c*nts in some loud 'club' down on some sh*t strip.
That's what 99% of all Westerners call 'socializing'.
That and staring zombie-faced and slack-jawed into their sh*tty shiny toy phones wondering when Amy and Joe will friend them on Facebook.
Or maybe I can get married, have a bunch of spoiled kids, and then get divorced, while getting stuck paying for the brats and a lazy fat ex-wife who now hates me and poisons my kids minds against me.
Yeah, the 'social lives' you people have, that you claim are so great f*cking suck. Ive seen them, up close, a million times, and the deep, genuinely happy look on your faces says it all, all I need or want to know.
Who said I was a Nolan fanboy you f*cking fool cinemaisdead, I called mink a boring c*nt because he is exactly that, one post about Nolan goes up on wp he goes on such a hate campaign it's unreal, honestly it's so sad, no one cares, we get it you hate Nolan, and we all the rest of us suck nolans c*ck because some people might enjoy his version oc batman, and that's rich coming from you telling someone to go outside, go for a hike or fishing i had to laugh at that comment, bctande just summed you up in his last post
Hahaha WOW. I guess confining yourself to your computer chair, stuffing your face, ranting on about your self-proclaimed knowledge of film to a bunch of people who aren't smart enough to argue for themselves on a relatively unknown movie news website, garnering the hate of many film-goers, which seems to be the fuel to your fire.
Obviously you have been in turmoil about your lack of social life because you completely ignored all of my other comments and focused one element.
And here you are comparing yourself to the bottom of the pack. That's so consistent in all your arguments its almost disgusting. Comparing yourself to people who get sh*tfaced drunk and FUBAR in an attempt to lift your sorry excuse for a social life to higher ground.
Same on WP you come to a fairly unknown movie news site full of people you KNOW will hate your opinion and freely express it like people give two sh*ts. You're not a good movie critic, you are just literate, and that by itself puts you over much of these commentators. Congrats, your the smartest kid in the special ed class.
And yes you are pretentious, I know the f*cking definition and that's what you are.
By the way, you pathetically avoided my question of why you don't try and start up your own website or forum where you can professionally present your views on film. I'm still waiting for an answer, mink. Hold me to my word, if you ever present your great knowledge of a much higher stage, where others who actually know about filmwill be able to argue just as effectively, I will say you know what your talking about.
But we both know that day will most likely never come mink, we both know.
And "shiny new toy phones" . Let's just say I know a bit or two about mobile computing. And generalizing human feats in technology like the iPhone to "shiny new toy phones" is extremely ignorant. So please in that respect, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I haven't seen the Avengers yet Cinemaisdead so I can't really say for sure...I'm basing my opinion on being more excited for TDKR than Avengers because I enjoyed TDK more than Iron Man, Thor, or the rest (Not that I didn't enjoy those, I just like Chris Nolans movies more)... You haven't seen TDKR either so I guess will just wait and see. I will admit the Avengers looks really good I will be seeing it I just feel its more over the top comic book like (more magic, goofy jokes, cgi, ect) where Nolans are comic book movies but done in a somewhat more realistic fashion, and all his movies have been amazing to me at least. Agree Prometheus if it can get the full rated R rating will be my most anticipated of the bunch.
I didn't like the trailer dudes. Am I the only one who lost the hype after this trailer? It looks dull and pretty weak.. The trailer is supposed to look better than the movie. If this is the best they can come up with then fuuuuck..
PS: I've seen The Avengers three times. I think it is better than TDK,and will be better than TDKR as well :-)
I just signed up to thank you guys for showing a shred of sanity on the interwebs. I'm sick of seeing just about everybody rating the Dark Knight as some kind of profound, dark film.
In truth, what it is a poorly made, overly long, sappy film which has incompletely developed whiny characters, soundtrack that goes missing for periods of time and don't even get me started about the incoherent action sequences.
And, people who're already saying TDKR will be better than The Avengers? Pffft. Joss Whedon is a master (Though, I'll give TDKR a fair viewing).
well, i see two times the avengers, you know how hard is for TRUEMAN to see the same movie twice in the theater? it's very hard!, it's not a great movie, has many faults, but it's the most' entertainment movie i have seen in the last 10 years! f*ck the barman f*ck nolan
your'e welcome pal....i'm a big fan of asian cinema and Andy Lau is a favourite of mine. in my opinion The Raid will be the best action film of the year but it's such a shame it won't get the audience it deserves
My feelings about the Dark Knight and Nolan aside, this trailer is probably one of the worst pieces of marketing for a long-awaited summer blockbuster that I have ever seen. This trailer fails miserably at making the viewer excited and instead opts to instill a feeling of gloom and doom in them. There is nothing here that makes me curious about the story or interested in the characters. Hopefully the movie will not be as flat and monotone as this truly horrendous trailer.