Chris Pine Talks "Star Trek"

Wow im the first to wrtie something. mmmm i shouldnt spoil the moment...what to say..... how about..how u'all doing?

Doin' fine...Thanks. Chris Pine is hot. Did that spoil the mood? Sorry.

Hmmmm, that makes no sense about Spock's character. Am I missing something, or aren't all Vulcans trained from a very very early age to control their emotions? How can a Vulcan as I know them reach a mature age and still have human-like behavioral problems? The Vulcans avoided Earth because of this, until First Contact where humans invented warp flight and flooded the galaxy with their existence.

right, minkow, cuz they are perfect and therefore even the younger spock could never have a temporary loss of emotional control when dealing with a species as troublesome as humanity

It's not a temporary loss, it's part of his early 'formative' character, and integral part of the story, jugding by Pine's synopsis. Vulcan's definitely pride themselves on a prefection of emotional restraint from an early age. Haven't you ever watched Star Trek?

minkowski you're forgetting Spock is half human, which is a struggle this movie seems to be addressing.

Yes, he's half human, but raised Vulcan. If the ability to control his emotions was genetic, he would likely either inherit that trait, or he wouldn't. You either have blue eyes, or not. Even Vulcans can't mix genes like Sherwin-Williams mixes paint. So the Vulcan trait for emotional restraint is likely socially engineered. In fact, in an episode of STNG, a vulcan, perhaps Sarek, speaks about how Vulcans were once very much like humans, how they once struggled like humans to control their poor temperament, one that lead to much war and suffering. Vulcans are often contrasted with Romulans who have taken the opposite path. Anyway, all this implies Vulcans used societal conditioning and social evolution, the idea that a race can evolve by will alone through voluntary betterment, to change away from a negative path. I doubt Sarek, with Spock raised as a Vulcan, would allow Spock to reach maturity, adulthood no less without reaching a proper level of restraint. Can you imagine Sarek of all people sending his son off to Starfleet to quarrel, to display unrestrained emotion and illogic, in front of HUMANS, no less? Even if you say that because Vulcans live longer than humans, they somehow reach emotional stability at an apparent age older than Spock's as seen in this film, you still have to struggle with the notion Sarek would embarrass his family by sending off a relatively unstable Vulcan son into StarFleet and a human audience. Also recall how he went to Vulcan to recuperate after his rebirth. Didn't take much time to solidify Spock's return to the cold logic of Vulcan rationalism and objectivity. I'm pretty sure childhood, those soft, formative years, would give any Vulcan parent enough time to emotionally constrain their child.

And of course Data's character was inspired by, and offered as a replacement for, Spock. I'm also pretty sure Spock's character is just what we've always seen, but for 'dramatic' purposes, in order to sell a movie otherwise about 'f*cking and fighting', the writers rewrote who Spock is to fans. Oh yeah, Orci and Kurtzmann wrote the script. Feel confident yet? The same guys, in their late 30's, that felt the need to script in Bumblebee taking a whiz on some human. I guess this kind of braindead storytelling works with American males and international idiots, but the rest of us demand a little more. The crew of Transformers, writing the next Star Trek. lol. What's next, Manson writing the next Pixar film?

You are a very angry young man.

That's a very astute on-topic remark. You get a banana.

Keep the banana. I fear I know where it's been.

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this film looks gay just like every other star trek film