How about.....Riddler and Freeze???

[dAnKoNe23]

Since the gossip has started with the highly anticipated third installment of Nolan's Batman franchise, I haven't once seen anybody mention Mr. Freeze. Why not?
I mean, we all know that Nolan is only interested in "believable" characters, so in terms of escalation, wouldn't these characters fit well into Nolan's story?
The Riddler is the obsessed lunatic trying to mimic The Joker (R.I.P. Mr. Ledger)....Obviously
BUT can Mr. Freeze be turned into an extremist politician motivated by global warming and/or the loss of his wife?
Or is this getting to be too political and shoddy?
I would like to know what all you other Batman fans think, I know there's a lot of us...
CIAO!:cool:

[guitar_dudester91]

Here you go TGDirector! ha. Well theres another thread containing this topic, and I'm not sure where I stand. I was an asshole in the other thread, but that was a long time ago. So I don't know if I would like that or not. Hmmmm...

[dAnKoNe23]

TGDirector?????? What does that mean?.....my mistake, guess I just don't have enough time to review all the threads...I understand what you mean, I can see how it would be a bad idea, I'm just trying to think inside the outside of the box here.

[guitar_dudester91]

TGDirector is anoher patron on the site, and he had an idea very very similar to this, but at the time I disagreed with him. He'll post in a little bit, you'll see what we think.

[TGDirector]

Well Howdy howdy! YES! lol, Thanks GD91! lol, wasn't expecting this one.

Okay Darkone23, :) I'm glad you brought this up because I was the only one who brought this idea of Mr. Freeze as a centered bad guy in the third installment of Nolan's Batman. This argument took place in another thread on here.

I do like the idea though of having going a different direction with Mr. Freeze character. A lot of people come to agree that he's a bad guy and I see in a different way which is I think was GD91's problem with my vision of it. I mean, yeah Mr. Freeze actually done some bad things in series and comics. But that's not his motives to actually do bad for fun or anything.

He's doing bad for good, to save his wife. He saw a chance to save his wife, and he's going to do it. He will do whatever it takes to find the fund and the cure for it. He's doing this out of love and this is what gets mixed up a lot with people. Batman does not see Mr. Freeze's side of the story and I think I like that mix up because that develops Freeze's hate towards Batman for that very reasons, so it becomes a pretty complex story and layers.

I had a realistic idea and a possible direction to go with how Freeze became how he is. I mean, if you read in the other post I think you'd like that idea. So I'll try to explain a bit on this post.

In these days and time we actually have Chronic Freeze Facilities in some parts of the country, which means that people believe or donate their body to science until they've found a cure for their disease/illness. They know how to properly freeze them and keep them alive, but what they don't know is how to unfreeze them.

And if you go ahead and look it up online, it's actually some pretty scary stuff. Which I think is a perfect link to reality translation to screen for our character Mr. Freeze. Let's say he does work in one of those Chronic companies. Let's say he does still have an accident, but let's also change a few things about him. Instead of silver, shiny skin, let's make him pale as if he gives off no heat whatsoever. He has to have tiny tubes that runs on the outside of his body to keep his coolness at a level by a Chronic tank on his back. Which also is a replacement for his gun, its just a hose which I think is the best way to bring it to the screen in a more reality fashion way.

There's also those kind of disease where you can't go in the sun, and some people have to use real-actual spacesuits in order to go outside. Keep their body at a certain degree.

I dunno, just a thought. I think it could work if they really look into it and done some research like I did. If they play with that idea long enough, it could, definitely work.

I mean, look what they did with the Joker, they played with his character to reality traits and they nailed it the right way. A lot of people thought "Oh hey, the Joker had an accident which is why his face is the way it is." No. They actually simplified it and decided to go with the classics, which is: He had a fucked up childhood and life. He just uses army paint for his mask and his smile is a scar which we or no one knows how he got it. And that's the beauty of it.

Same could go with Mr. Freeze...As long as you play with that character a bit, tweak little things so that it will work on screen. And it will as long as you add the right elements the character needs.

[dAnKoNe23]

I dig that.....I mean, that is definitely an idea that is within the realm of Nolan's Batman universe. Clearly the global warming idea is EXTREMELY amatuer, haha. I like the proposed idea, and think it could make things very interesting. I guess we'll just have to wait a couple years to see what happens :(. But I am pretty damn excited to see "Inception."

[TGDirector]

:) I'm glad you like it and understand that it could work! Sorry for the long read but I was bored and thought it would be interesting to show my ideas.

What I'd figured is that we could all pitch in some ideas to play with the Freeze character and see how it would turn into Nolan's world. Fit into Batman's boundaries.

Yeah I'd like to see "Inception" as well. I'd like to see him do something different see where he goes with it. He's won over a lot of faith. And he deserves that faith.

[dAnKoNe23]

The read wasn't boring by any means...have you posted another thread for developing Freeze ideas? I'd like to see what other people think about it, because I think the character has something to offer that others don't, and that is, an interesting backstory that can be played with.

No doubt about "Inception" especially with all the remakes and sequels these days. It's nice to see that someone is still producing original ideas. And the fact that it's Nolan just tickles me pink! haha.

One last question.....assuming you've seen both, which movie did you like more: The Prestige or Memento? And why?

[TGDirector]

I have posted in a ton of threads on here, it shouldn't be hard to find me on here. I even started quite a few threads here as well. I think you'll find a lot of interesting ideas that GD91 and I have talked about.

We post more than others on here and we actually talk intelligently about film and the depth of it. A lot of others don't exactly put more than 2 complete sentences into their post. In fact, if they can't argue their topics or win. They'll go the insult-route. It's a classic.

Now surprisenly I haven't seen Momento yet. I want to. But since I've seen The Prestige, I thought it was different, it was definately original and not some sort of remake.

I am glad that you actually read everything and put some thought into your post. That makes me happy that there's someone other than me, and guitar_dudester91 that will elaborate more into depth about things.