SuperFriends

[guitar_dudester91]

Anybody remember the old cartoon? I think it would be cool if instead of the CGI Justice League, maybe they go back to the roots and just for fun, make a cool movie. I would see it anyway....

[TGDirector]

Whoa whoa, back up! There you go! There's a way we can actually stretch that boundires a little more.

Let's go with Final Fantasy type CGI. I'll bet you if they can do a serious project with Superfriends, they can probably pull that off that way. Do a little real reconstruction of characters, treat as a real big budget film.

There's your way to do it.

[guitar_dudester91]

Well I guess it could work, you would probably have to get rid of the Wonder twins and such, but it might be cool.

[TGDirector]

Well it depends on how well they'd interpret the Wonder Twins into a present day society. Let's say they don't have to call out what they want to turn into and just slam their fist into each other and just turn. Make them wear today's clothes. Give them hairstyle, not that Spock spin-off crap.

That's what I mean when I said re-invent a little bit. Clothings, hairstyles, hideouts, etc. They all don't have to be an exact model of what it used to be in the old cartoons. We'll make it true to it's roots, sure. But let's give it something different, catch people's attentions.

[guitar_dudester91]

Yes, I guess I didn't think of that. They would definetely have to be re-doen to fit today's image, but it could be done. Also, I don't think I want it to be CGI. I mean, sure that's cool and everything, but I am still campaigning for the live-action movie that has the actors used in the origin stories. I think they would fit, it would be cool to see.

[TGDirector]

It'd be interesting for sure. I'd still want them to just take it seriously and not think of it as a huge bank roll.

CGI would just make it pretty different than what we're all used to. CGI's getting so real to the point where we're gonna ask ourselves if it's real or not.

[guitar_dudester91]

It is, but I think I like live-action better. I mean Beowolf was a poor interpretation as a adaptation, but the visuals were pretty good. I just like live action better. It just reminds me of cartoons, and I would rather see real actors in the movie. Maybe just my opinion...

[guitar_dudester91]

Now here is my interpretation of what DC next moves are towards achieving a good movie like this.

I think that of course, firstly they need to finish the TDK sequel. Get that story done, but don't rush it, leave Batman as a character that they CAN come back to but don't have to. Also, as much as I have said this, it needs to be here to prevent arguements: DC needs to understand that even though Nolan's version of Batman may be very realistic, Batman isn't the only character that they need. Don't do it as Marvel is doing, give the story everything they've got, and be true to the characters. Batman is dark, Superman is righteous, Wonder Woman is honest, etc. etc.

Next, the Superman epic has to be made. It will take a couple of years sure, but make it as Batman was made.

In between some of these films, make The Green Arrow, Flash, Aquaman, Green Lantern, and Wonder Woman come to life. Take a lesson from Marvel. Except for DC, I would want them to not make Cameo appearances in the movies. Leave each character to their own story, like Batman did. They take 5-7 years out, make the movies, get all the characters established, and then make a SuperFriends movie. Include only the major characters, ones that already have their own cinema story. The bad guys from those movies, of course, team up and give us the Legion of Doom. Some won't be there, but you would need Bizzaro, Lex Luthor, Riddler, Cheetah, Black Manta, maybe Solomun Grundy, Cpt. Cold, and probably Brainiac. Of course you won't have all of the original 13 characters from the cartoon, but its a start.

[TGDirector]

They don't have to finish anything or wait till whatever finished. Like I said, it's gotta be seperate from those projects. Otherwise it just won't work. But what I will agree with is if they were to borrow from some of their movies.

That wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Also I just gotta point out....Aquaman is THE most useless superhero I've ever seen anywhere.

[guitar_dudester91]

Well I think it would be a bad idea to make it completely seperate. I mean, the CGI Justice League was never going to be popular, even if it came out. That was seperate. I probably wouldn't have seen it, and it would've been just another movie that kids would enjoy.

I say, keep the continuity. If Christian Bale returns for a Superfriends movie, it would be frickin awesome. But if they just cast another actor, the result would be pretty disappointing. I mean, It's like if they recast the Joker for TDK sequel. Nobody wants that, so transfer that over to the entire DC Universe.

[TGDirector]

It wouldn't be a bad thing to keep it seperate and I would be really totally okay with that. But what I wouldn't mind at all if they actually borrowed things from certain movies, like costume-wise etc.

But my issue is how bad this might come out. It really does depend on who writes it, it really does depend on how well they translate it to the big screen.

It would be awesome if they kept all the characters so don't get me wrong there. The issue is Bale is a smart man and knows who and who not to put his acting career in whose director's hands. So seeing him doing this is a hard sight. It'd be almost painful knowing that there's a 95% chance that this movie can be a huge flop.

I would't mind new actors and giving somebody else a good chance to make something of themselves and make it something different. I would be perfectly okay with that.

Again, what we have to realize is that we have to keep the Joker and Heath Ledger seperate from each other. Yes, he took a character and made it GREAT! He made it his own. But they're not the same person. It can go one or two ways if they recasted The Joker: Up or Down. Depends on which actor makes it his own and not completely a copy of Heath's Joker.

It's in no way a disrespect for or to Heath. Nor will it be a dishonor.

[guitar_dudester91]

But since the character is already established, I don't think that they need to go back to him, but if they did, they need to keep him the same as Ledger's.

Also, I would really hate to see recasting. If they do a Superfriends/Justice film, they need to stay consistent. Otherwise it will end up like a bunch of tv series and not cooperative universe. Smallville has nothing to do with anything in the "movie" realm of DC universe (yet I hope:) ), but if they transferred that onto the big screen, all of the characters from the series or movie have to STAY. Christian Bale needs to STAY. All of the actors need to STAY. Otherwise they will just end up doing a CGI film for kids, and I don't want to see that happen.

[TGDirector]

I had a feeling about that same thing. If they chose different actors/actresss for an actual justice league project. It'd feel more like a tv show type of thing. But again, it really depends on how they do it. I wouldn't mind them if chose different actors. But some actors feel ya know, differently about doing the same character over and over again like that.

I mean look at Slyvester Stallone. He's done the same character 5 times in two different movies. And it seems like that is the only thing he can do. He was sterotyped by doing it over and over.

So what's the cure for this? I can see where you'd like them to take it. I wouldn't mind it seeing the same actors have a continuty. But I just don't think it will happen through the DC universe. Maybe for the Marvel because they can actually link everyone together simply unlike DC.

I like Ledger's arch for the Joker, of course. I like it, they can keep that image. If they can find an actor to fit that role if they need to come back to that character. I am just trying to say to keep Ledger and Joker seperated despite many people take it personally.

[guitar_dudester91]

Right. Well about the Joker, I think they should just be done with that. I mean, he had his run, maybe another villain would be good for the story. But if they did the Joker again, I guess I don't mind so much if it was a different actor, they just need to keep the same character, with long hair, etc.

And I don't think I could ever see a CGI Justice League movie. I mean I guess it would work, but they NEED to keep the same actors. I mean, thats what is so successful with Marvel. They are having a buildup, and keeping the continuity, and then combining all of their elements into one big mixing bowl. So hopefully DC will come around and see that that is their best route to take.

[TGDirector]

Well the only reason why I suggested CGI is because filmmakers are starting to use it seriously these days now. And it is cheaper to do it that way.

They have that new light-stop motion picture technology that captures real facial features in every light directions for every expressions. So you can pretty much take an actor, have him sit in this ball that's covered with like 100 diffrent lights, and have him do expressions etc. You have your actors right there that looks just like them.

I only suggested it because it's a new boundry we can stretch. It's a new way to do a film. If they could make it as real and as serious as they had been doing, I'll be first in line to see it. Now a life-action film? Sure, just as good.

I mean, CGI is a pretty sensitive subject when it comes to filmmaking, you gotta raise a lot of questions etc.

"Is it gonna be too childish?"
"Will people go see it?"
"How well it will do at the box office?

There's tons of questions about it I guess. But if they added the right elements of people on the projects and depends on how well it's written and directed. Then it'd be great. A success.

Marvel's great. I love them, probably more than I love DC. The great thing about Marvel is that they're all easy to connect to another character to the next. The other cool thing about Marvel is that they try to fit it into the real world. Using reality based cities or real-life issues based in the economy and every day life. They use that and it works

Now, the reasons why actors stayed for their films within the Marvel company is because its in their contracts for one, for two they never done it before. They actually don't have too many "warped-fucked" plot. Sure, they made some mistakes, but not too many to noticed to the untrained eyes.

DC could do the same thing, they just gotta keep BOTH their audiences and their actors/actresses interested. Give them a good reason to go on a good story and not a flop for the studio to reel in just money. Luckily, DC is in Warner Bros's hands. So far they've proven 100% better than 20th Century Fox.

The thing about Warner Bros. They wouldn't go onto something unless it was good. So there's your plus. So if they couldn't get the same actors again with another contract, they'll find someone that fits the role if it's a great story.

Remember, some actors/actresses just like to do different things. They have enough money to break contracts if they'd like. So it really depends.

And I agree about the Joker, same image, etc. Just have the actor incooperate some of his own stuff into the character and not leave it entirely Ledger's. It just wouldn't be the same, we all know this. But agreed, there's no real reason to go back to the character. But if they had to, I am sure they'd make a good choice about it. It's WB we're talking about.

[Blakkksuperman2]

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